School turns heating off to ‘save planet’...
School turns heating off to ‘save planet’...
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nelly1

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5,666 posts

262 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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In the absence of a 'Climate Change - The Stupidity Debate' thread - link 1... & link 2...

Article said:
Furious parents vented their anger at a headteacher who turned off his school's heating on one of the coldest days of the year.

Pupils at Ansford Academy in Castle Cary, Somerset, were forced to grip their pens through thick gloves and wear their coats and hats in class as temperatures dropped to 1C.

The school's headmaster, Rob Benzie, shut down the radiators as an experiment to show students how the school could cut its carbon footprint.
The worrying thing is, if you look past the Daily Soovy hysteria and at some of the comments, the idea was apparently thought up by some of the pupils and 'Jumper Day' was a great success to some!

Parent's comment said:
My daughter goes to Ansford, Year 10, and attended 'Jumper Day'. She has just read this article and finds it ridiculous. She had a good day and is looking forward to the next one. During the summer they even turn off all the electricity to really understand the dependency we all have on powered devices.
To quote Ripley... "Did I.Q.s just drop sharply while I was away?"

Has the indoctrination really spread as far as this?

Sadly, I already know the answer frown

Jasandjules

72,676 posts

260 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Health and safety breach?

TimJMS

2,584 posts

282 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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nelly1 said:
In the absence of a 'Climate Change - The Stupidity Debate' thread - link 1... & link 2...

Article said:
Furious parents vented their anger at a headteacher who turned off his school's heating on one of the coldest days of the year.

Pupils at Ansford Academy in Castle Cary, Somerset, were forced to grip their pens through thick gloves and wear their coats and hats in class as temperatures dropped to 1C.

The school's headmaster, Rob Benzie, shut down the radiators as an experiment to show students how the school could cut its carbon footprint.
The worrying thing is, if you look past the Daily Soovy hysteria and at some of the comments, the idea was apparently thought up by some of the pupils and 'Jumper Day' was a great success to some!

Parent's comment said:
My daughter goes to Ansford, Year 10, and attended 'Jumper Day'. She has just read this article and finds it ridiculous. She had a good day and is looking forward to the next one. During the summer they even turn off all the electricity to really understand the dependency we all have on powered devices.
To quote Ripley... "Did I.Q.s just drop sharply while I was away?"

Has the indoctrination really spread as far as this?

Sadly, I already know the answer frown
The pupils would have been too terrified to disagree, since any dissent would have meant their bodies exploding.

nelly1

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5,666 posts

262 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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TimJMS said:
The pupils would have been too terrified to disagree, since any dissent would have meant their bodies exploding.
No pressure... hehe

chris watton

22,547 posts

291 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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TimJMS said:
The pupils would have been too terrified to disagree, since any dissent would have meant their bodies exploding.
Not too far off the mark...

My step-son moaned that he had an exam on global warming. I told him to write what he thought (bought him Christopher Booker's book for 'balance') Alas, he said he'd get a 'fail' if he didn't write 'the gospel according to Gaia'

Edited by chris watton on Wednesday 7th December 08:48

Countdown

49,529 posts

227 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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OTOH

Helps the students understand how much it costs to heat schools
Maybe they realise how much Mummy & Daddy spend on gas & Electricity
Maybe they try and save money by turning the thermostat down and wearing a jumper instead.
Everybody saves money

scratchchin

andymadmak

15,726 posts

301 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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chris watton said:
TimJMS said:
The pupils would have been too terrified to disagree, since any dissent would have meant their bodies exploding.
Not too far off the mark...

My step-son moaned that he had an exam on global warming. I told him to write what he thought (bought him Christopher Bokker's book for 'balance') Alas, he said he'd get a 'fail' if he didn't write 'the gospel according to Gaia'
yep. My son got a detention for daring to question the MMGW mantra spouted by his teacher. He put in a (rather well researched I thought) alternate view and got zero marks and warnings of further reprisals if he "didn't stop with this stupidity"



TheHeretic

73,668 posts

286 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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So what did you do?

chris watton

22,547 posts

291 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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TheHeretic said:
So what did you do?
What can you do when you have the whole rotten establishment singing from the same hymn sheet?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

286 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Well,i'd be straight down to the headmasters office, and the school board meeting, asking why a logically thought out essay was disregarded based on agenda, or words to that effect.

andymadmak

15,726 posts

301 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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TheHeretic said:
So what did you do?
My son asked me not to intervene. - Not because he was fearful or wimpy about it all, but rather because the extreme nature of the teachers response actually cemented his own view that the "science" of MMGW was just so much bunkum. He also said that the incident had made several of his friends and class mates question their own previously unquestioning acceptance of the "facts", and some had started to look into things in material outside of that provided by the school. I was rather proud of him for that.

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Wednesday 7th December 2011
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TheHeretic said:
Well,i'd be straight down to the headmasters office, and the school board meeting, asking why a logically thought out essay was disregarded based on agenda, or words to that effect.
yes

Schools have (or should have) documented guidance on sanctions/penalties. (Home School Agreements, "behaviour pyramids"). I would be shocked if any of my children had ANY sanction applied for disagreeing with a viewpoint (let alone detention)

Admittedly my son's school is quite a good school - when a student gets detention they normally right to the parent setting out why he has got it.


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Wednesday 7th December 2011
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andymadmak said:
My son asked me not to intervene. - Not because he was fearful or wimpy about it all, but rather because the extreme nature of the teachers response actually cemented his own view that the "science" of MMGW was just so much bunkum. He also said that the incident had made several of his friends and class mates question their own previously unquestioning acceptance of the "facts", and some had started to look into things in material outside of that provided by the school. I was rather proud of him for that.
If you don't mind me saying, it's a crap school if they tolerate extremist teachers.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Countdown said:
OTOH

Helps the students understand how much it costs to heat schools
Maybe they realise how much Mummy & Daddy spend on gas & Electricity
Maybe they try and save money by turning the thermostat down and wearing a jumper instead.
Everybody saves money

scratchchin
My feelings exactly.

Its a total non-story blown out of all proportion by nasty gutter press

just the headline

Children discover its cold when heating switched off!!!

Doesn't sell many papers

We did exactly the same at our school almost 30 years ago. It was called the miners strike


And as to this
Jasandjules said:
Health and safety breach?
Just sod off Elf and safety is an excuse rolled out by idiots on a daily basis. Its one thing that doesn't need encouraging

Eric Mc

125,855 posts

296 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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So what was the true purpose of the "experiment"?

motco

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277 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Jasandjules said:
Health and safety breach?
Nah! 'uman rights!

Puggit

49,829 posts

279 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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andymadmak said:
TheHeretic said:
So what did you do?
My son asked me not to intervene. - Not because he was fearful or wimpy about it all, but rather because the extreme nature of the teachers response actually cemented his own view that the "science" of MMGW was just so much bunkum. He also said that the incident had made several of his friends and class mates question their own previously unquestioning acceptance of the "facts", and some had started to look into things in material outside of that provided by the school. I was rather proud of him for that.
Did your son research Dimmock vs Sec.State for education?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimmock_v_Secretary_o...

andymadmak

15,726 posts

301 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Puggit said:
andymadmak said:
TheHeretic said:
So what did you do?
My son asked me not to intervene. - Not because he was fearful or wimpy about it all, but rather because the extreme nature of the teachers response actually cemented his own view that the "science" of MMGW was just so much bunkum. He also said that the incident had made several of his friends and class mates question their own previously unquestioning acceptance of the "facts", and some had started to look into things in material outside of that provided by the school. I was rather proud of him for that.
Did your son research Dimmock vs Sec.State for education?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimmock_v_Secretary_o...
TBH I don't know. What I do know is that he took a stand. Not noisily, (he rarely raises his voice) not rudely (he never swears) but quietly and with calm determination. As I said, I am proud of him for his approach to what was a very challenging situation. He took his "punishment" with good humour.

Mr_B

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274 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Puggit

49,829 posts

279 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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andymadmak said:
Puggit said:
andymadmak said:
TheHeretic said:
So what did you do?
My son asked me not to intervene. - Not because he was fearful or wimpy about it all, but rather because the extreme nature of the teachers response actually cemented his own view that the "science" of MMGW was just so much bunkum. He also said that the incident had made several of his friends and class mates question their own previously unquestioning acceptance of the "facts", and some had started to look into things in material outside of that provided by the school. I was rather proud of him for that.
Did your son research Dimmock vs Sec.State for education?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimmock_v_Secretary_o...
TBH I don't know. What I do know is that he took a stand. Not noisily, (he rarely raises his voice) not rudely (he never swears) but quietly and with calm determination. As I said, I am proud of him for his approach to what was a very challenging situation. He took his "punishment" with good humour.
I'd be proud of your son too thumbup

Unfortunately he's learnt another lesson - that the state creates it's own truth and that dissension will not be tolerated frown