Nick Clegg calling Britain "Pygmies"
Discussion
Tunku said:
I'm pretty sure this use of the word is meant to be insulting and denigrating. Racist comment in my view. What do you all think?
The guys just a moron, UKIP are now in 3rd place, Cleggy needs to wake up and smell the coffee! Look at the poles, only 19% said CMD was wrong to use the veto but how many of those would have been influenced by the BBC's continuous propaganda stream? Easy way to check is to replace the word with something else.
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be a pygmy in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
Is the original.
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be confined to a wheelchair in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be a dwarf in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
I'd say that perhaps yes, he is making a link between physical stature and diplomatic stature. Sarkozy will be annoyed.
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be a pygmy in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
Is the original.
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be confined to a wheelchair in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be a dwarf in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
I'd say that perhaps yes, he is making a link between physical stature and diplomatic stature. Sarkozy will be annoyed.
sjn2004 said:
Tunku said:
I'm pretty sure this use of the word is meant to be insulting and denigrating. Racist comment in my view. What do you all think?
The guys just a moron, UKIP are now in 3rd place, Cleggy needs to wake up and smell the coffee! Look at the poles, only 19% said CMD was wrong to use the veto but how many of those would have been influenced by the BBC's continuous propaganda stream? 
davepoth said:
Easy way to check is to replace the word with something else.
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be a pygmy in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
Is the original.
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be confined to a wheelchair in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be a dwarf in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
I'd say that perhaps yes, he is making a link between physical stature and diplomatic stature. Sarkozy will be annoyed.
Nice thoughts, but I think you will find that Pygmies are a race, just like Negros, not a handicap like wheelchair users or dwarves.“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be a pygmy in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
Is the original.
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be confined to a wheelchair in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
“A Britain that leaves the EU will be considered irrelevant by Washington and will be a dwarf in the world when I want us to stand tall in the world,”
I'd say that perhaps yes, he is making a link between physical stature and diplomatic stature. Sarkozy will be annoyed.
Pyg·my /ˈpɪgmi/ Show Spelled [pig-mee] Show IPA noun, plural -mies, adjective
noun
1. Anthropology .
a. a member of a small-statured people native to equatorial Africa.
b. a Negrito of southeastern Asia, or of the Andaman or Philippine islands.
2. ( lowercase ) a small or dwarfish person.
3. ( lowercase ) anything very small of its kind.
4. ( lowercase ) a person who is of small importance, or who has some quality, attribute, etc., in very small measure.
5. Classical Mythology . (in the Iliad ) one of a race of dwarfs who fought battles with cranes, who preyed on them and destroyed their fields.
It has a wider meaning than just small people.
noun
1. Anthropology .
a. a member of a small-statured people native to equatorial Africa.
b. a Negrito of southeastern Asia, or of the Andaman or Philippine islands.
2. ( lowercase ) a small or dwarfish person.
3. ( lowercase ) anything very small of its kind.
4. ( lowercase ) a person who is of small importance, or who has some quality, attribute, etc., in very small measure.
5. Classical Mythology . (in the Iliad ) one of a race of dwarfs who fought battles with cranes, who preyed on them and destroyed their fields.
It has a wider meaning than just small people.
Tunku said:
I'm pretty sure this use of the word is meant to be insulting and denigrating. Racist comment in my view. What do you all think?
That trying to play the race card, especially when I assume you are not in the target race is a tragically British post '97 thing to attempt to do. Looks like the drip feed of PC has infiltrated even the die hard right wing of PH.Sad really.
MX7 said:
Pyg·my /ˈpɪgmi/ Show Spelled [pig-mee] Show IPA noun, plural -mies, adjective
noun
1. Anthropology .
a. a member of a small-statured people native to equatorial Africa.
b. a Negrito of southeastern Asia, or of the Andaman or Philippine islands.
2. ( lowercase ) a small or dwarfish person.
3. ( lowercase ) anything very small of its kind.
4. ( lowercase ) a person who is of small importance, or who has some quality, attribute, etc., in very small measure.
5. Classical Mythology . (in the Iliad ) one of a race of dwarfs who fought battles with cranes, who preyed on them and destroyed their fields.
It has a wider meaning than just small people.
The word gay has several meanings, but that still caused an enormous noun
1. Anthropology .
a. a member of a small-statured people native to equatorial Africa.
b. a Negrito of southeastern Asia, or of the Andaman or Philippine islands.
2. ( lowercase ) a small or dwarfish person.
3. ( lowercase ) anything very small of its kind.
4. ( lowercase ) a person who is of small importance, or who has some quality, attribute, etc., in very small measure.
5. Classical Mythology . (in the Iliad ) one of a race of dwarfs who fought battles with cranes, who preyed on them and destroyed their fields.
It has a wider meaning than just small people.
kBing o said:
Tunku said:
I'm pretty sure this use of the word is meant to be insulting and denigrating. Racist comment in my view. What do you all think?
That trying to play the race card, especially when I assume you are not in the target race is a tragically British post '97 thing to attempt to do. Looks like the drip feed of PC has infiltrated even the die hard right wing of PH.Sad really.
Six Fiend said:
sjn2004 said:
Tunku said:
I'm pretty sure this use of the word is meant to be insulting and denigrating. Racist comment in my view. What do you all think?
The guys just a moron, UKIP are now in 3rd place, Cleggy needs to wake up and smell the coffee! Look at the poles, only 19% said CMD was wrong to use the veto but how many of those would have been influenced by the BBC's continuous propaganda stream? 
Edited by andrewws on Monday 12th December 06:08
Bing o said:
That trying to play the race card, especially when I assume you are not in the target race is a tragically British post '97 thing to attempt to do. Looks like the drip feed of PC has infiltrated even the die hard right wing of PH.
Sad really.
Yes, unless the target person hears the racism it's absolutely OK. Racism is 100% fine as long as the lot you are being racist about don't hear it.Sad really.
Just to clarify, I don't care much for pygmies, I don't think the pygmy comment is racist or makes Clegg racist, I am not remotely offended by it or offended on behalf of anyone else.

Edited by el stovey on Monday 12th December 07:25
Tunku said:
Bing o said:
Tunku said:
I'm pretty sure this use of the word is meant to be insulting and denigrating. Racist comment in my view. What do you all think?
That trying to play the race card, especially when I assume you are not in the target race is a tragically British post '97 thing to attempt to do. Looks like the drip feed of PC has infiltrated even the die hard right wing of PH.Sad really.
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