Unemployment Figures
Discussion
"UK unemployment rose by 128,000 in the three months to October to 2.64 million, the highest level since 1994.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the jobless rate was 8.3%, up from 7.9% in the previous quarter.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16175309
Very little sign of the private sector employment picking up.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the jobless rate was 8.3%, up from 7.9% in the previous quarter.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16175309
Very little sign of the private sector employment picking up.
Edited by Fittster on Wednesday 14th December 12:53
What I would be interested in is what % of this is due to shifting people back into the correct catagories?
We know that Labour massaged the unemployment figures for years by shifting as many as possible into other catagories such as disabled and I thought the Cons were attempting to shift as many of these back as possible.
Is it 1% or 10%?
We know that Labour massaged the unemployment figures for years by shifting as many as possible into other catagories such as disabled and I thought the Cons were attempting to shift as many of these back as possible.
Is it 1% or 10%?
heppers75 said:
Well I am desperately trying to recruit 2 full time developers and a Business Analyst so I can knock three of that list if I ever get a decent candidate!
Although our recruitment is currently on hold, this is how it has been for most of the last two years for us. There are lots of candidates around who seem to think they are more capable than they really are. We've really struggled sifting through the junk that comes from the agencies. We've tried multiple agencies but they all suffer from the same problem, the agents are not technical enough to understand our skill requirements.alock said:
heppers75 said:
Well I am desperately trying to recruit 2 full time developers and a Business Analyst so I can knock three of that list if I ever get a decent candidate!
Although our recruitment is currently on hold, this is how it has been for most of the last two years for us. There are lots of candidates around who seem to think they are more capable than they really are. We've really struggled sifting through the junk that comes from the agencies. We've tried multiple agencies but they all suffer from the same problem, the agents are not technical enough to understand our skill requirements.It is now moving from annoying to fekking infuriating!
heppers75 said:
Yes very much the same issue.... I am looking for two good PHP, MySQL application devs for web based app development for a new venture and no matter how many times I say I want AppDev experience not pure WebDev 80% of CV's are pure web designers!
It is now moving from annoying to fekking infuriating!
Where abouts are you? I should stay where I am for a bit longer, but one day...It is now moving from annoying to fekking infuriating!
I've always found agencies to be useless. I know which positions I should be put forward for, they think they know better. I've provided my CV to agencies the last few 'times' and always found a job with next to no effort before they've even got started.
Esseesse said:
heppers75 said:
Yes very much the same issue.... I am looking for two good PHP, MySQL application devs for web based app development for a new venture and no matter how many times I say I want AppDev experience not pure WebDev 80% of CV's are pure web designers!
It is now moving from annoying to fekking infuriating!
Where abouts are you? I should stay where I am for a bit longer, but one day...It is now moving from annoying to fekking infuriating!
I've always found agencies to be useless. I know which positions I should be put forward for, they think they know better. I've provided my CV to agencies the last few 'times' and always found a job with next to no effort before they've even got started.
Just been listening to various political bods on the radio talking about this.
Am I missing something when the Leftists say that the job losses in the public sector not being picked up by the private sector just means one more person calming benefits and not paying tax.
Surly any given person in the public sector is paid out of taxes in the first place, so unless they were being paid less than they are going to get on benefits, its a net gain for the tax payer? Am I missing something fundamental here?
Am I missing something when the Leftists say that the job losses in the public sector not being picked up by the private sector just means one more person calming benefits and not paying tax.
Surly any given person in the public sector is paid out of taxes in the first place, so unless they were being paid less than they are going to get on benefits, its a net gain for the tax payer? Am I missing something fundamental here?
Liokault said:
Just been listening to various political bods on the radio talking about this.
Am I missing something when the Leftists say that the job losses in the public sector not being picked up by the private sector just means one more person calming benefits and not paying tax.
Surly any given person in the public sector is paid out of taxes in the first place, so unless they were being paid less than they are going to get on benefits, its a net gain for the tax payer? Am I missing something fundamental here?
No you aren't missing anything, it is just people don't like to say it is cheaper to have someone on the dole than public sector worker. Labour know this and try to capitalise on it.Am I missing something when the Leftists say that the job losses in the public sector not being picked up by the private sector just means one more person calming benefits and not paying tax.
Surly any given person in the public sector is paid out of taxes in the first place, so unless they were being paid less than they are going to get on benefits, its a net gain for the tax payer? Am I missing something fundamental here?
If you are bored there is a debate on it right now on BBC Parliament
Liokault said:
Just been listening to various political bods on the radio talking about this.
Am I missing something when the Leftists say that the job losses in the public sector not being picked up by the private sector just means one more person calming benefits and not paying tax.
Surly any given person in the public sector is paid out of taxes in the first place, so unless they were being paid less than they are going to get on benefits, its a net gain for the tax payer? Am I missing something fundamental here?
Well considering the level of some benefits they will probably be better off! Am I missing something when the Leftists say that the job losses in the public sector not being picked up by the private sector just means one more person calming benefits and not paying tax.
Surly any given person in the public sector is paid out of taxes in the first place, so unless they were being paid less than they are going to get on benefits, its a net gain for the tax payer? Am I missing something fundamental here?
However I have always thought that while they statistically shift to the unemployment figures and will be contributing less in spending (assuming they are on less benefits than they were salary!) the actual raw net fiscal effect of shifting someone from the Public Sector to being on benefits is very little.
heppers75 said:
alock said:
heppers75 said:
Well I am desperately trying to recruit 2 full time developers and a Business Analyst so I can knock three of that list if I ever get a decent candidate!
Although our recruitment is currently on hold, this is how it has been for most of the last two years for us. There are lots of candidates around who seem to think they are more capable than they really are. We've really struggled sifting through the junk that comes from the agencies. We've tried multiple agencies but they all suffer from the same problem, the agents are not technical enough to understand our skill requirements.It is now moving from annoying to fekking infuriating!
heppers75 said:
alock said:
heppers75 said:
Well I am desperately trying to recruit 2 full time developers and a Business Analyst so I can knock three of that list if I ever get a decent candidate!
Although our recruitment is currently on hold, this is how it has been for most of the last two years for us. There are lots of candidates around who seem to think they are more capable than they really are. We've really struggled sifting through the junk that comes from the agencies. We've tried multiple agencies but they all suffer from the same problem, the agents are not technical enough to understand our skill requirements.It is now moving from annoying to fekking infuriating!
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