Nanny state - alcohol minimum pricing on the way
Discussion
How will it actually effect us though?
Today I purchased 2 boxes of '8x568ml Magners' for £14 and 1 box of '18x440ml Budwieser' for £10.
I can't see it affecting the individual 4-pack of beer sales, or the pint of cider sales...but bulk discounts will practically be eradicated!
Won't this just have more impact on the small wine shops again?
Today I purchased 2 boxes of '8x568ml Magners' for £14 and 1 box of '18x440ml Budwieser' for £10.
I can't see it affecting the individual 4-pack of beer sales, or the pint of cider sales...but bulk discounts will practically be eradicated!
Won't this just have more impact on the small wine shops again?
With everything the Government announces, follow the money.
According to the article - "Dr Sarah Wollaston, an MP on the Common’s health committee and a former GP, said that alcohol misuse was costing the nation £20 billion.."
Reducing that figure by charging more for cheap booze is a win-win for the Gov't - they receive more duty on the booze and theoretically reduce the cost to the NHS (although £20bn seems an excessive figure).
That said, you'll probably find people simply move more to home-brewing kits which produce stronger drinks more cheaply, or the real down-and-outs start drinking stuff like paint thinners and washer fluid.
In the same way they're purporting to 'reduce smoking' by increasing the costs, all they'll end up doing is creating a black market trade that goes unregulated and cash-in-hand, much as we've seen happen with cigarettes being imported cheap from abroad (or indeed, even 'fake' tobacco made from god-knows-what).
According to the article - "Dr Sarah Wollaston, an MP on the Common’s health committee and a former GP, said that alcohol misuse was costing the nation £20 billion.."
Reducing that figure by charging more for cheap booze is a win-win for the Gov't - they receive more duty on the booze and theoretically reduce the cost to the NHS (although £20bn seems an excessive figure).
That said, you'll probably find people simply move more to home-brewing kits which produce stronger drinks more cheaply, or the real down-and-outs start drinking stuff like paint thinners and washer fluid.
In the same way they're purporting to 'reduce smoking' by increasing the costs, all they'll end up doing is creating a black market trade that goes unregulated and cash-in-hand, much as we've seen happen with cigarettes being imported cheap from abroad (or indeed, even 'fake' tobacco made from god-knows-what).
They have/are bringing it into scotland
In scotland we have a huge problem in poor areas with folk getting completely guttered on Buckfast AKA a bottle of buckie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine
So to tackle this they are going to make it illegal to sell a bottle of wine for less then £3.00
A bottle of buckie is £7.00
Tards the lot of them
In scotland we have a huge problem in poor areas with folk getting completely guttered on Buckfast AKA a bottle of buckie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine
So to tackle this they are going to make it illegal to sell a bottle of wine for less then £3.00
A bottle of buckie is £7.00
Tards the lot of them
hornetrider said:
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.t
ts the lot of them.The Black Flash said:
hornetrider said:
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.t
ts the lot of them.seems like i picked a good time to cut down on my boozing...
its about the tax revenue really I suspect.
greygoose said:
OllieC said:
its about the tax revenue really I suspect.
I agree. The end result will be an expansion of the black market for cheap imported or industrial scale home brew operations, just like the hand rolling tobacco market.
90% of the booze I drink is already bought in France (legally) - that might just go up.
If I smoked I'd actively buy black market tobacco.
Negative Creep said:
Doesn't something need to be done though? As a society we've proven completely incapable of controlling our alcohol intake. We have an entire culture of people going out with the sole purpose of getting wrecked
I honestly think that the majority of our problems are caused by people who think "Something needs to be done" confounded by politicians glancing of a way to up their popularity and acting on those thoughts, "The road to hell..." and all that.My personal response would be to remove restrictions and let people deal with the consequences of their own actions, if they can't so be it.
If as a society we handle drink badly then we are not going to resolve the issue by making it harder to get, this has already been proved with drugs and in some countries drink.
It really won't make a difference.
"A bottle of own-brand gin with around 37.5 per cent alcohol content would go up from £6.95 to £11.85. A two-litre bottle of own-brand cider would more than triple in price from £1.20 to £3.75.
The cost of a £12 bottle of whisky would rise to £12.60, while a bottle of cheap wine would go up from around £3.75 to £4.20. A four-pack of beer with more than five per cent alcohol content would cost a minimum of about £3.95."
I'd suggest that any 70cl whisky that costs £12.60 or wine that costs £4.20 is better used on cleaning paint brushes.
The poor might find it tougher but anyone with a job will be able to continue binge drinking.
"A bottle of own-brand gin with around 37.5 per cent alcohol content would go up from £6.95 to £11.85. A two-litre bottle of own-brand cider would more than triple in price from £1.20 to £3.75.
The cost of a £12 bottle of whisky would rise to £12.60, while a bottle of cheap wine would go up from around £3.75 to £4.20. A four-pack of beer with more than five per cent alcohol content would cost a minimum of about £3.95."
I'd suggest that any 70cl whisky that costs £12.60 or wine that costs £4.20 is better used on cleaning paint brushes.
The poor might find it tougher but anyone with a job will be able to continue binge drinking.
thinfourth2 said:
But it won't effect you unless you only drink tescos value larger or some other tramp juice and it certainly won't effect those that go down the pub and spend £3.00plus for a small bottle of beer before having a fight.
Its a fking useless law
This is the reason why I asked, earlier in the topic. Its a f
king useless law My only concern is yesterday I got; 18x440ml cans of Bud and 16x568mm bottles of Magners for £24.
The Bud was £10 and the Magners was £14.
Can't work out if those deals meant I was getting more than a unit per 30pence. I think I was, just!
It will just put some of the cheap wine and beer deals impossible. My partner buys an Asda wine that's often on a 3 for £10 and I gather this wouldn't be possible with the new changes?
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