house fire, four dead. Sad story.

[Oakey]

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/local/when_...

36 year old mother of nine has birthday party. Three of the kids are asleep in one of two attic rooms. A wardrobe in one of these attic rooms (not sure if it's the same the kids were in) spontaneously bursts into flames. The eldest son attempts to save the other three but unfortunately all four die.

According to ITN News the police are currently investigating why this wardrobe set on fire, more specifically whether it contained any electrical appliances or if any electricals were connected to it.

I have my suspicions where they're going with that, and have a feeling this was completely avoidable.

[172ff]

OP Did you ever patch things up with your brother?

Sad story btw.

[Oakey]

Not really but then he's been in Oz for the last year.

[Rollcage]

Nine kids?

Wow.

[CatJ]

Where do you think they are going with it?

[Randy Winkman]

Oakey said:

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/local/when_...

36 year old mother of nine has birthday party. Three of the kids are asleep in one of two attic rooms. A wardrobe in one of these attic rooms (not sure if it's the same the kids were in) spontaneously bursts into flames. The eldest son attempts to save the other three but unfortunately all four die.

According to ITN News the police are currently investigating why this wardrobe set on fire, more specifically whether it contained any electrical appliances or if any electricals were connected to it.

I have my suspicions where they're going with that, and have a feeling this was completely avoidable.

Just a smoke alarm would've meant it could have been avoided. Like practically every death from fire in the home.

[Oakey]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Possibly. Bit strange of them to be asking for information about a wardrobe eh?

ETA: It does sound like a polite way of asking if anyone knew if they were doing something they shouldn't be

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/local/polic...

"POLICE have appealed for information which could help determine the cause of a tragic house fire where four youngsters were killed."

surely the only people they need to ask for the answers to their questions are the people that lived there?

Edited by Oakey on Monday 9th January 19:05

[El Guapo]

At the risk of being accused of being a tin foil hat wearer, there is something not quite right about this story.

[Oakey]

It was a party, if there was loud music they might not have heard any smoke alarms.

[CatJ]

I'm sure I read that the house had been under renovation and did have smoke alarms but they were not working.

[Randy Winkman]

Oakey said:

It was a party, if there was loud music they might not have heard any smoke alarms.

Were they asleep? With music so loud, they couldn't hear smoke alarms?

[shed driver]

Not long after Christmas - how many times do we hear about people needing batteries for new toys etc? I've done it from one of the alarms, replaced it the next day, but it's easy to overlook.

RIP to all though

SD

[Jasandjules]

There was a party IN the house where the fire occured and yet still the three kids died? Surely someone though to go and get them? I don't understand this, what am I Missing? I mean, I wouldn't be leaving my burning house until I knew my dogs were safe, let alone kids.

[Oakey]

Jasandjules said:

There was a party IN the house where the fire occured and yet still the three kids died? Surely someone though to go and get them? I don't understand this, what am I Missing? I mean, I wouldn't be leaving my burning house until I knew my dogs were safe, let alone kids.

Yes the 19yr old went back in to save them but also died.

[JensenA]

Jasandjules said:

There was a party IN the house where the fire occured and yet still the three kids died? Surely someone though to go and get them? I don't understand this, what am I Missing? I mean, I wouldn't be leaving my burning house until I knew my dogs were safe, let alone kids.

Errr, I think it may probably have been a bit to hot to wander back in and nip upstairs to grab the kids

[davepoth]

It'd have been the smoke that killed anyway - if it was that bad I doubt anyone would have made it to the first floor, let alone the attic, without being overcome.

[Oakey]

Christ almighty, it was a bungalow!! It's there in the article (I think)

[CatJ]

It was a converted bungalow with bedrooms in the loft. The son died because he did go back in to rescue the twins. There were smoke alarms in the house but not working.

[Jasandjules]

JensenA said:

Errr, I think it may probably have been a bit to hot to wander back in and nip upstairs to grab the kids

But if you are in the house, at what point do you notice that it is on fire?

[CatJ]

Jasandjules said:

But if you are in the house, at what point do you notice that it is on fire?

I guess it depends where the fire starts and where you are in the property. There was a house fire in Wiltshire last year and the only reason the occupiers knew about it was that a passing motorist happened to spot the flames coming from the roof.