Northern Ireland referendum / Independence
Northern Ireland referendum / Independence
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Ayahuasca

Original Poster:

27,590 posts

310 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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After England casts Scotland adrift, can we have a referendum of NI going its own way too?



slow_poke

1,855 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Should Scotland decide to plough its own furrow, I can easily envisage Northern Ireland following her - the people there on both sides of the sectarian divide have more in common culturally and ethnically with the Scotch than they do with the English.

sportka1

1,025 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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nope still dont think most of us over here are quite mad enough as yet to leave a good thing

Thom987

3,185 posts

197 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Norn Iron is not financially viable. End of story.

muffinmenace

1,100 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Thom987 said:
Norn Iron is not financially viable. End of story.
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Ayahuasca

Original Poster:

27,590 posts

310 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Maybe it can be added to the Scotland deal, like a two-for-one?


thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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How about dumping wales and northern england until all that is left is the south east

Blib

48,321 posts

228 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
How about dumping wales and northern england until all that is left is the south east
We'd all be rich beyond the dreams of avarice! Though, we would need to build a bloody big wall.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Blib said:
we would need to build a bloody big wall.
Strangely enough that is what the rest of the country is thinking

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

231 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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slow_poke said:
Should Scotland decide to plough its own furrow, I can easily envisage Northern Ireland following her - the people there on both sides of the sectarian divide have more in common culturally and ethnically with the Scotch than they do with the English.
Eh? Just not with each other. One wants united ireland (and in private the republic doesn't want that problem and is a basket case financially right now) and the other... Might be inclined, but I wonder if Alex would want the problem?!

MiniMan64

19,541 posts

221 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Thom987 said:
Norn Iron is not financially viable. End of story.
And a large majority of the people don't want it anyway, we're quite happy as it is. For those that would rather not, the option to the south of us as a united Ireland isn't looking like a great prospect either!

Thom987

3,185 posts

197 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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MiniMan64 said:
Thom987 said:
Norn Iron is not financially viable. End of story.
And a large majority of the people don't want it anyway, we're quite happy as it is. For those that would rather not, the option to the south of us as a united Ireland isn't looking like a great prospect either!
We don't want you either.

MiniMan64

19,541 posts

221 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Thom987 said:
MiniMan64 said:
Thom987 said:
Norn Iron is not financially viable. End of story.
And a large majority of the people don't want it anyway, we're quite happy as it is. For those that would rather not, the option to the south of us as a united Ireland isn't looking like a great prospect either!
We don't want you either.
We'll you're stuck with us, we know we're onto a good thing. wink

(And besides I live this side of the water now anyway!)

Kudos

2,674 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
After England casts Scotland adrift, can we have a referendum of NI going its own way too?
I forgot, England is the centre of the world. wker

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

231 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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MiniMan64 said:
We'll you're stuck with us, we know we're onto a good thing. wink

(And besides I live this side of the water now anyway!)
Yes that's why the Welsh have been strangely quiet as well.

0a

24,160 posts

225 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Can't we do a 3 for 1 deal and "gift" Wales and NI to Scotland?!

On a serious note I think most the English are indifferent regarding such an action. Not because of cost or nationalist issues, but because we recognise that it's fair enough if Scotland, Wales and NI want to go it alone and manage themselves - with a fair split.

This will include:

- not using the pound
- a fair proportion of national debt assumed based on previous spending
- no defense protection applied
- immigration controls (no flood of labour back to the EU in case of economic collapse)
- no return (in case of economic collapse)
- all other services are stopped (bbc, NHS) unless agreement on a profitable export basis is reached - very happy for the new nations to provide their own.

Kudos

2,674 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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0a said:
Can't we do a 3 for 1 deal and "gift" Wales and NI to Scotland?!

On a serious note I think most the English are indifferent regarding such an action. Not because of cost or nationalist issues, but because we recognise that it's fair enough if Scotland, Wales and NI want to go it alone and manage themselves - with a fair split.

This will include:

- not using the pound
- a fair proportion of national debt assumed based on previous spending
- no defense protection applied
- immigration controls (no flood of labour back to the EU in case of economic collapse)
- no return (in case of economic collapse)
- all other services are stopped (bbc, NHS) unless agreement on a profitable export basis is reached - very happy for the new nations to provide their own.
Since when did the pound and BBC etc belong to England?

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

213 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
After England casts Scotland adrift, can we have a referendum of NI going its own way too?
There is no desire from either side of the divide in NI to become independent.

Semi hemi

1,801 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
After England casts Scotland adrift, can we have a referendum of NI going its own way too?
Do your two (functioning) brain cells actully comunicate with each other, Or is this post just the result of heavy misuse of recreational pharmicuticals?

Talksteer

5,818 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Kudos said:
0a said:
Can't we do a 3 for 1 deal and "gift" Wales and NI to Scotland?!

On a serious note I think most the English are indifferent regarding such an action. Not because of cost or nationalist issues, but because we recognise that it's fair enough if Scotland, Wales and NI want to go it alone and manage themselves - with a fair split.

This will include:

- not using the pound
- a fair proportion of national debt assumed based on previous spending
- no defense protection applied
- immigration controls (no flood of labour back to the EU in case of economic collapse)
- no return (in case of economic collapse)
- all other services are stopped (bbc, NHS) unless agreement on a profitable export basis is reached - very happy for the new nations to provide their own.
Since when did the pound and BBC etc belong to England?
Firstly they belong to the UK if you leave the UK you cease to gain the benefits of it. I'm sure a fair an equatable solution would be for Scotland to take BBC Scotland.

Secondly realpolitik of a break up situation is that England contains 85% of the population and even more of the wealth. Having decided to break up you have then made it electorally advantageous for the British PM to screw you.