Fined for 'namecalling' Facebook post .... best be careful
Fined for 'namecalling' Facebook post .... best be careful
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LongQ

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13,864 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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According to the BBC an elderly lady has been fined (in Scotland) £300 for a (briefly on line) posting on Facebook that referred to a certain type of citizen group that tends to move around the country a lot by a commonly used name starting with the letter "p".

This, it seems, is unacceptable in Scotland.

Since when was personal opinion made public deemed to be illegal?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-o...




Gogoplata

1,272 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Yet what she said was so offensive that the BBC wrote it word for word in that article. rolleyes

jas xjr

11,309 posts

270 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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BBC also had a show which featured a pie and a key on the bonnet of a car. So that's ok then

Funk

27,786 posts

240 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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She was right though.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

277 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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LongQ said:
Since when was personal opinion made public deemed to be illegal?
1986 - when the Public Order Act prohibited expressions of racial hatred, i.e. hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality, ethnic or national origins. Maximum sentence seven years in prison or a fine or both.

Digga

48,555 posts

314 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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And when , pray, can we expect ex-Mr Madonna, Guy Ritchie to be hauled through the courts for his heniously racist portrayal of said minority in Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
LongQ said:
Since when was personal opinion made public deemed to be illegal?
1986 - when the Public Order Act prohibited expressions of racial hatred, i.e. hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality, ethnic or national origins. Maximum sentence seven years in prison or a fine or both.
So we can expect Miss Abbot to be behind bars then


sadako

7,080 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Digga said:
And when , pray, can we expect ex-Mr Madonna, Guy Ritchie to be hauled through the courts for his heniously racist portrayal of said minority in Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels?
His portrail of pastry covered lock openers was in Snatch, not Lock Stock.

Hudson

1,857 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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I bet now she gets mysteriously burgled (but not by the wonderful "travelling community") in response to the BBC slapping this all over their website.

Hope for her sake they forgot to nick a modem on their last computer "shop" so they cant read it.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Careful, chaps, pigeon was banned from PH for an argument over the word in question.

Digga

48,555 posts

314 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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sadako said:
Digga said:
And when , pray, can we expect ex-Mr Madonna, Guy Ritchie to be hauled through the courts for his heniously racist portrayal of said minority in Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels?
His portrail of pastry covered lock openers was in Snatch, not Lock Stock.
Ooops!

Thanks for rescuing that post.

matchmaker

9,078 posts

231 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
LongQ said:
Since when was personal opinion made public deemed to be illegal?
1986 - when the Public Order Act prohibited expressions of racial hatred, i.e. hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality, ethnic or national origins. Maximum sentence seven years in prison or a fine or both.
POA doen't apply in Scotland. She will probably have been charged with Breach of the Peace. She got off lightly - maximum sentence for a BOP is life imprisonment eekeek


Edited by matchmaker on Thursday 19th January 13:59

Hugo a Gogo

23,438 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Am I the only one who read it then?

she wasn't fined simply for using that one word which is banned on here, but for the whole tirade, and would have got exactly the same punishment if she'd called them "happy go lucky travelling filth" etc

LongQ

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13,864 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
1986 - when the Public Order Act prohibited expressions of racial hatred, i.e. hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality, ethnic or national origins. Maximum sentence seven years in prison or a fine or both.
So we could still discuss, for example, 'metal thieves from the east' providing we are not too specific about geographic origin or ethnicity?

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

188 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality, ethnic or national origins.
So which one of those applies to the group in question?


steviegunn

1,425 posts

215 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Doesn't the court have to prove that what she said is false, is it really the case that members of the Cork & Waterford caravaneers conglomerate aren't tellers of untruths, aren't takers of things that belong to others, aren't dodgers of soap?

King Herald

23,501 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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So why did they post a pic of a 'travelling person' then?? confused



Oh, I see, my mistake.... hehe

Happy82

15,078 posts

200 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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So it's illegal to state facts now? Of all the comments that the BBC reported, there's not one that suggests an untruth?


Happy82

15,078 posts

200 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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King Herald said:
So why did they post a pic of a 'travelling person' then?? confused



Oh, I see, my mistake.... hehe
That's what living in Scotland does to you hehe

Ozzie Osmond

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277 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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mybrainhurts said:
Careful, chaps, pigeon was banned from PH for an argument over the word in question.
Pigeon pie?