If only this happened more often...

If only this happened more often...

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Tallbut Buxomly

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12,254 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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Long and short girl with iq of around 70 is banned from having sex and anyone who has sex with her can be charged with sexual assault/rape..

A judge has banned an autistic woman with an IQ of 64 from having sexual intercourse on the grounds she does not fully understand she could say no to such actions.
Mr Justice Hedley said the 29-year-old lacks the mental capacity to consent to having sex, and made the order to protect her best interests.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096472/Ju...

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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Tallbut Buxomly said:
Long and short girl with iq of around 70 is banned from having sex and anyone who has sex with her can be charged with sexual assault/rape..

A judge has banned an autistic woman with an IQ of 64 from having sexual intercourse on the grounds she does not fully understand she could say no to such actions.
Mr Justice Hedley said the 29-year-old lacks the mental capacity to consent to having sex, and made the order to protect her best interests.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096472/Ju...
It used to happen a lot - google "Eugenics".

Regiment

2,799 posts

161 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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What iq is the cut off point before you can justify this? And why would the age of consent be 16 for someone who might have an iq of 150 who can understand biology and freedom of choice, but also 16 for someone with an iq of 80 with dependency problems?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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Does she have a tattoo on her forehead informing people that humping her is to be considered rape? How is a chap to know?

1point7bar

1,305 posts

150 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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So the tariff for being judged below normal is a life sentence with no love.

Did the offence happen so often the courts needed to intervene? Who was charged with her well-being in the first place?

superkartracer

8,959 posts

224 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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Tallbut Buxomly said:
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Agree, then maybe you wouldn't have been born biggrin

King Herald

23,501 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Does she have a tattoo on her forehead informing people that humping her is to be considered rape? How is a chap to know?
She has been told to tell them 'no', on the grounds that she is unable to tell them no. Simples.

scratchchin

Eric Mc

122,345 posts

267 months

Saturday 4th February 2012
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Autism is not an IQ issue.

Tallbut Buxomly

Original Poster:

12,254 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Autism is not an IQ issue.
Very true but her iq is around 70 and i am starting to think people who have an iq below around 90 should not be allowed to reproduce.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Eugenics... It's not a game for everyone.

AJS-

15,366 posts

238 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Yes, the government does everything else so well I really wish they would decide who could and could not breed.

I can see the point, but I can also see someone ending up on rape charges for no good reason. I grew up near Newcastle and if I had specified an IQ of above 64 I would have been a virgin until the age of 25.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Did anyone see the program on social workers the other night? This was the episode about a boy, who I think was called Toby, and his parents who could be called 'a bit slow'. His parents did not have the common sense that is required to raise a child. His mother, to her credit, did care and was tearful when she admitted she had failed him and decided to put him up for adoption. His father was a fking dhead who was wired wrongly, capable of calling a solicitor on his mobile phone to check his rights but incapable of sending his lad to nursery cleaned and fed properly. On one hand I feel pity for the children borne of such parents and think they shouldn't be allowed to bring children into their world but then worry about where the line would be drawn when deciding who should be denied the right to have children - criminals, addicts, sufferers of mental illness not related to IQ, the unemployed..............

Carfiend

3,186 posts

211 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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This would have never have happened under the Nazis!

Oh wait... yeah it probably would have tbh.

croyde

23,219 posts

232 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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A piece that I have just read in my current book goes along the lines of that we of the late 20th and early 21st century are human flotsam. We sent our brightest, bravest and strongest off to various wars throughout the 1900s and left only the weakest, people of low intelligence and criminals behind to breed and create the broken society that we have today.

Darwin gone wrong?

Makes you think.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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You think only the best and brightest fought in wars?

croyde

23,219 posts

232 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Not me, it was written in a book but it makes you think, doesn't it?

ETA

Thinking about it, yes a lot of low intelligence people would have been sent off to fight in the trenches along with the brightest but the people left behind would certainly have been the weakest, most cowardly or workshy or being of ill health mentally and physically.

OK some of the cleverest would have got out of it or would have been of high rank in the military thus would have been away from danger.

Edited by croyde on Sunday 5th February 10:01

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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croyde said:
Not me, it was written in a book but it makes you think, doesn't it?
Not really. The wars of the 1900's were massive affairs, and the dregs of society tended to be the fodder.

Xtype

2,791 posts

200 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Carfiend said:
This would have never have happened under the Nazis!

Oh wait... yeah it probably would have tbh.
of course not....she would have walked into a communial shower.......to never be seen again.

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

224 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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TheHeretic said:
You think only the best and brightest fought in wars?
Surely all the really clever people found a way to stay back at home minding those mostly female staffed munitions factories?

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Carfiend said:
This would have never have happened under the Nazis!

Oh wait... yeah it probably would have tbh.
Never mind that it was going on in the US for twenty odd years before the Nazi party existed and continued until the early Seventies, eh?