Paisley pastey with palsy?
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Andy Zarse

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10,870 posts

278 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Big Ian is very ill in hospital with a heart condition. The end of de tird force?

AJS-

15,366 posts

267 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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title said:
Paisley pastey with palsy
You couldn't see Pa for paste.

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Oh dear, such a shame.

/cynical

Eric Mc

125,859 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I have a love/hate relationship with the good doctor. In his younger days he was a total firebrand but for the last 20 years he has actually worked quite hard on the peace process and think, in the end, he has been an overall force for good.

slow_poke

1,855 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I have a love/hate relationship with the good doctor. In his younger days he was a total firebrand but for the last 20 years he has actually worked quite hard on the peace process and think, in the end, he has been an overall force for good.
I want some of whatever you've been smoking!

Granted, in the end he was force for good (when the realities fo the situation were clearly put to him in black & white: do a deal & share power or watch Dublin get more involved in the running of Ulster) - but overall the course of his lifetime?

Nah. Nasty old man.

andymadmak

15,726 posts

301 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I have a love/hate relationship with the good doctor. In his younger days he was a total firebrand but for the last 20 years he has actually worked quite hard on the peace process and think, in the end, he has been an overall force for good.
I would have to agree with you Eric. In the context of NI politics he was a leader who did not pick up the armalite, so in that regard he stands apart from many on the Republican side. But his rhetoric made a peace deal harder to put together.
Having said all that, peace was secured, and Mr P has made a valuable contribution to its continuence.

Hope he gets better soon


JuniorD

9,013 posts

254 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I know he must have had a road to Damascus moment in recent years but he is the man who was the root cause of what became 'the troubles' and what perpetuted them. He didn't need to take up an armalite (unless we chose to consider the 3rd force and his armed henchmen) for his words rallied and stirred others to do the dirty work instead. Parsley would make Abu what'shisface and the fundamentalist hate clerics look like rank amateurs.

Anyway, he came round when the writing was on the wall and that is one positive. Still, I think it will be an interesting interview when he reaches the pearly gates later in the week.

andymadmak

15,726 posts

301 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Saying that Paisley was the "root cause" of the troubles in NI shows a remarkable ignorance of the history of the region.


br d

9,072 posts

257 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I have a love/hate relationship with the good doctor. In his younger days he was a total firebrand but for the last 20 years he has actually worked quite hard on the peace process and think, in the end, he has been an overall force for good.
I wouldn't go as far as that Eric but I largely agree.
I do wonder though about the latter, nicer guy, worries about judgement day?

Eric Mc

125,859 posts

296 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Being a man of the cloth, I'm sure he has been thinking about how he will be judged by God for most of his life.

Steffan

10,362 posts

259 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Being a man of the cloth, I'm sure he has been thinking about how he will be judged by God for most of his life.
He could, of course, take the Churchillian approach and be planning what he wants to say to the Almighty. I think he has the bottle to do so.

Like Eric, I have learned to respect the man for his efforts for Northern Ireland. However I would draw the line at liking him.

majordad

3,631 posts

228 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Once again I agree with Eric. It need him to bend a bit , and he did when it mattered. His recent visits South have been warm and friendly.

iphonedyou

10,424 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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JuniorD said:
but he is the man who was the root cause of what became 'the troubles'
That's the most incorrect statement I've read on PH since joining. And I've read a LOT of ste this past year.

Ignorance on that level concerns me greatly.

loafer123

16,763 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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iphonedyou said:
JuniorD said:
but he is the man who was the root cause of what became 'the troubles'
That's the most incorrect statement I've read on PH since joining. And I've read a LOT of ste this past year.

Ignorance on that level concerns me greatly.
I think what JuniorD said was [paisley] TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE! [/paisley]

iphonedyou

10,424 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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loafer123 said:
I think what JuniorD said was [paisley] TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE! [/paisley]
laugh

IroningMan

10,598 posts

277 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Dr No.

kev b

2,756 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Like him or loathe him, the man stuck to his guns and meant what he said, he did not backtrack, u-turn, or change his mind every five minutes as short term expediency like most other mealy mouthed politicians. I am not sure about how likeable he was but he really did stick to his principles and for that I admire him.

groak

3,254 posts

210 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Dr Paisley is a Free Presbyterian. To him, and indeed all Free Presbyterians, popery, islam and satanism are viewed with the same contempt and disgust. They are also of the opinion that homosexual activity is ungodly, and vehemently oppose the notion of open homosexuality on the part of clergymen, and the notion of any form of blessing or even approval for homosexual unions.

Clearly many disagree with these opinions and some even find them unacceptable.

Andy Zarse

Original Poster:

10,870 posts

278 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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groak said:
Dr Paisley is a Free Presbyterian. To him, and indeed all Free Presbyterians, popery, islam and satanism are viewed with the same contempt and disgust. They are also of the opinion that homosexual activity is ungodly, and vehemently oppose the notion of open homosexuality on the part of clergymen, and the notion of any form of blessing or even approval for homosexual unions.

Clearly many disagree with these opinions and some even find them unacceptable.
In 1977 he started a campaign called Save Ulster From Sodomy. I was never sure how it Wasserstein possible to sodomise a country, well not until I saw the Taesoch guarantee the Irish banks...

Eric Mc

125,859 posts

296 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Ulster is a Province, not a country smile