What sanction could the ECHR place against the UK if...

[Marf]

...we shoved Abu Qatada on private jet and flew him to Jordan without their say so?

[Laurel Green]

Surely, in this economic climate, a rowing boat would suffice. Maybe drop him off half way as a goodwill gesture.

[Marf]

Can we please not turn this into a thread bashing qatada or the EHCR and actually look to definitively answer the question?

We keep getting told that we can't do this or that by the EHCR. I want to know how they'd actually be able to punish us if we just said f-ck you and ignored them.

[dandarez]

If Farage was PM...
Nothing!

[Digga]

If we sent him on Ryanair I think it may contravene the Geneva Convention.

[AJS-]

None at all directly as I understand it.

However I believe we don't even have that right because the European Union as a whole is a member now, so for leaving the ECHR to have any meaningful impact we would have to leave both.

[mondeoman]

So they'd kick us out of the EU if we sent that knob back home??

When's the next plane?

[onyx39]

I did wonder if could meet with an "unfortunate accident" surely this could be arranged?

[Hooli]

mondeoman said:

So they'd kick us out of the EU if we sent that knob back home??

When's the next plane?

Wouldn't that be nice?

[F i F]

They could, in theory (<< heavy emphasis on theory) kick us out of The Council of Europe for repeated offences, again heavy emphasis on repeated.

So as somebody said, when can we sort a plane?

If I were PM I'd send the bugger back to Jordan, when somebody whinged, say oops, simple paperwork mistake, we got deportation papers and his housing benefit application for a Mayfair apartment mixed up, sorry, promise we won't do it again.

What could they do? By that time he would be in Jordan being "interrogated."

[thinfourth2]

So basically we would get a strongly worded e-mail

[Jasandjules]

I believe fines can also be imposed. Significant fines..

[EDLT]

Do other countries actually ignore the ECHR, or is it just based on Wail facts?

Actual examples would be nice, not just "Yes."

[Muntu]

Jasandjules said:

I believe fines can also be imposed. Significant fines..

We could significantly ignore them...

[F i F]

Muntu said:

Jasandjules said:

I believe fines can also be imposed. Significant fines..

We could significantly ignore them...

Could be wrong but I thought that bit of their powers hadn't been granted yet.

Anyway if I am wrong I'd look on the fine a bit like a £90 parking ticket incurred whilst picking up my Euromillions winning cheque from Camelot.

Realise that is deliberately portraying myself behaving like a colossal asshat but just trying to put it in some sort of comedic perspective.

[Tartan Pixie]

When Cameron used his veto recently the particular euro farce happening at the time couldn't go ahead, primarily for technical reasons regarding improper use of EU institutions. Although the ECHR has nothing to do with that I'm pretty sure if he starts playing fast and loose with the ECHR it would result in some sort of sneer from Merkozy when they're next eyeing each other over a plate of EU vol au vents.

IMO Cameron's doing the right thing, give King Abdullah a quick call and I'm pretty sure the Jordanian justice system will find the required paperwork.

[vonuber]

An interesting piece on this from the Guard.. oh, wait hang on, the Telegraph?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda...

[Norfolkit]

EDLT said:

Do other countries actually ignore the ECHR, or is it just based on Wail facts?

Actual examples would be nice, not just "Yes."

Yes.
They were talking about this on Newsnight on Monday, apparently both Italy and France have already done just that.

[davepoth]

Norfolkit said:

Yes.
They were talking about this on Newsnight on Monday, apparently both Italy and France have already done just that.

European countries in "we ignore the rules when it suits us" shock.

[Bing o]

So, we deport British citizens to the USA (who use torture at Gitmo and other places) but we can't send the Muslamic bearded tt back home because they use torture?