Over my dead body......
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heppers75

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3,135 posts

248 months

DonkeyApple

70,777 posts

200 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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heppers75 said:
Beginning of the end of the road.

Once it gets traction, and it will, the premiums for those not with a system will price them off the roads.

I'm tempted to halt membership along with a written explanation as to why.

Will see how this all progresses.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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I believe this sort of stuff is only a matter of time, for all of us, because the technology exists, a bit like scameras.

I believe it'll be a government thing, where we'll be charged per mile, and fined for speeding accordingly.

It could feasably, even be used to cut emmissions, by limiting how far you can drive.

This sort of stuff is the anti-car brigades dream.

stevensdrs

3,265 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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George Orwell "1984". Big Brother is watching us.

Defcon5

6,477 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Would a tracker blocker stop these transmitting?

NismoGT

1,634 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Defcon5 said:
Would a tracker blocker stop these transmitting?
C4 Explosives would. Or a big hammer.

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Defeated by tinfoil though, surely? Put a little tinfoil hat over the GPS receiver and the car will think it's been idling on the driveway all day...

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Defcon5 said:
Would a tracker blocker stop these transmitting?
I'm sure it would, but if I were designing the system, you'd also block your perission for engine to run signal, that my system would be sending you, to enable you to use your car !

I'm not a fan by the way, I can just see things going this way, I think we can only thank the change in government/downturn, that the speed limiters didn't get off the ground ........ yet.

snowdude2910

754 posts

195 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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The information will only be released with a court order, so in other words you are suspected of speeding, the police would report you without evidence and then just ask your insurance company to grass you in to which they'd have to oblige.

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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davepoth said:
Defeated by tinfoil though, surely? Put a little tinfoil hat over the GPS receiver and the car will think it's been idling on the driveway all day...
You are assuming it'll only be sending data, if it needs to recieve before your cpu will allow you to start your engine ?

freecar

4,249 posts

218 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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davepoth said:
Defeated by tinfoil though, surely? Put a little tinfoil hat over the GPS receiver and the car will think it's been idling on the driveway all day...
Crisp packet!

Ayahuasca

27,590 posts

310 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Similar to genetic profiling for life assurance - just because something can be done, doesn't mean it should be done. Insurance should be about sharing risk, but this is a way of making the sharing less fair.

carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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As I said in the other thread, I think it's of benefit to a young person if it's a choice between not driving and driving like a Buddhist. But as it's impossible to judge driving ability from some gadget I don't think it these things will be compulsary for several decades yet.

That said, I think the time when driving was fun is coming to an end. Even comparing today with the early 90s there's a huge difference, I doubt young people will ever know the fun that could be had in those days. In 30 years time driving will be like taking the train, minus airborn diseases and chav children.

NismoGT

1,634 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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I hope they are never compulsory. The cost of driving alone in this country makes the prospect of it depressing.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

315 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Sneak them in on company vehicles. Easy step for the rest.

Adrian W

15,623 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Surely if this iisnt just another way of boosting profits, everyone should get the discount and if this thing starts beeping then your price goes up

New POD

3,851 posts

181 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16653221

It's not like insurance companies are fair or honest themselves.

I've actually had 3 cars written off. On one occassion I was offered £500 on a car worth £2000.

I Eventually got £2000.

Anyway this tracker? The insurance company that fails to adopt this device will get my business, at whatever the extra cost to me. I suggest that PH starts an insurance company now. Given that 85% of the population admit to speeding, the insurance company that stays competitive, without the tracker will get my business.

Laurel Green

31,268 posts

263 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Anyone else notice "the strongly worded E-mail" quip? Seems someones been reading PH. hehe

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

182 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Nigel Worc's said:
I'm sure it would, but if I were designing the system, you'd also block your perission for engine to run signal, that my system would be sending you, to enable you to use your car !

I'm not a fan by the way, I can just see things going this way, I think we can only thank the change in government/downturn, that the speed limiters didn't get off the ground ........ yet.
If it required a GPS signal to run, the US military could turn the car off by remote control.

roachcoach

3,975 posts

186 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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A hideous idea because the bar will be set at the lowest common denominator: Some muppet in ditchfinders, and quicker than him....oooh you're "dangerous". Acceleration faster than a tractor? You'll be a fking murderer.

There is no good, absolutely none, which can will come of this.