Our MP's cover themselves in glory again.....
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Randy Winkman said:
Excuse me if I'm being really thick - but what is the suggested alternative to throwing the fish back?
Landing the fish and selling them? All the fishermen on Hugh's programme said the sea is rammed with Cod, the numbers are not dwindling as many say. The fish are dead when they're thrown back so it's a complete waste.Keep the fish & go to sea less times per season.
Mark34bn said:
Landing the fish and selling them? All the fishermen on Hugh's programme said the sea is rammed with Cod, the numbers are not dwindling as many say. The fish are dead when they're thrown back so it's a complete waste.
Keep the fish & go to sea less times per season.
If the fish are dead, then at least the resources are put back into the ecosystem, feeding other fish, and so on. I don't see the issue with throwing them back, to be honest.Keep the fish & go to sea less times per season.
TheHeretic said:
Mark34bn said:
Landing the fish and selling them? All the fishermen on Hugh's programme said the sea is rammed with Cod, the numbers are not dwindling as many say. The fish are dead when they're thrown back so it's a complete waste.
Keep the fish & go to sea less times per season.
If the fish are dead, then at least the resources are put back into the ecosystem, feeding other fish, and so on. I don't see the issue with throwing them back, to be honest.Keep the fish & go to sea less times per season.
GREED. Example below.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-o...
Edited by Mojocvh on Sunday 26th February 11:09
Randy Winkman said:
Excuse me if I'm being really thick - but what is the suggested alternative to throwing the fish back?
As I remember it, they HFW proposed a license for x amount of days/year, as opposed to constant fishing and then dumping the fish you've exceeded your quota on.I didn't expect to see this.
"WWF-UK said discarding should be allowed to continue. Giles Barlett, fisheries policy officer at the group, said: "There should not be an outright ban. We would like to see plans with measurable reductions in discards and strategies to achieve this. We are saying you should still be allowed to discard fish. We don't expect edible fish to be discarded."
TheHeretic said:
Mark34bn said:
Landing the fish and selling them? All the fishermen on Hugh's programme said the sea is rammed with Cod, the numbers are not dwindling as many say. The fish are dead when they're thrown back so it's a complete waste.
Keep the fish & go to sea less times per season.
If the fish are dead, then at least the resources are put back into the ecosystem, feeding other fish, and so on. I don't see the issue with throwing them back, to be honest.Keep the fish & go to sea less times per season.
on 2008 data 52000 tonnes of fish were caught, an additional 24000 tonnes were thrown back... so for all the fish caught per year about 1/3 is thrown back which is an issue.
Or are you saying that is fine?
(can't find 2011 data but its not going to be much better)
its been obvious to me now for about ten years how to solve the problem of overfishing and keep a fishing industry alive, i wrote to my MP bit never heard anything back.
1. ban sonar
2. restrict maximum size of vessels.
fewer fish would be caught, the price would go up, but this would reflect their scarcity.
obviously this needs to be done on a europe-wide basis.
1. ban sonar
2. restrict maximum size of vessels.
fewer fish would be caught, the price would go up, but this would reflect their scarcity.
obviously this needs to be done on a europe-wide basis.
Du1point8 said:
The reasoning is flawed.
on 2008 data 52000 tonnes of fish were caught, an additional 24000 tonnes were thrown back... so for all the fish caught per year about 1/3 is thrown back which is an issue.
Or are you saying that is fine?
(can't find 2011 data but its not going to be much better)
Huh? Where did I say overfishing was fine? All I am saying is that if you are going to bring excess into port, or throw it over, then throwing it over is the best option.i said nothing whatsoever about saying overfishing is OK. Stop reading into what I wrote.on 2008 data 52000 tonnes of fish were caught, an additional 24000 tonnes were thrown back... so for all the fish caught per year about 1/3 is thrown back which is an issue.
Or are you saying that is fine?
(can't find 2011 data but its not going to be much better)
TheHeretic said:
Du1point8 said:
The reasoning is flawed.
on 2008 data 52000 tonnes of fish were caught, an additional 24000 tonnes were thrown back... so for all the fish caught per year about 1/3 is thrown back which is an issue.
Or are you saying that is fine?
(can't find 2011 data but its not going to be much better)
Huh? Where did I say overfishing was fine? All I am saying is that if you are going to bring excess into port, or throw it over, then throwing it over is the best option.i said nothing whatsoever about saying overfishing is OK. Stop reading into what I wrote.on 2008 data 52000 tonnes of fish were caught, an additional 24000 tonnes were thrown back... so for all the fish caught per year about 1/3 is thrown back which is an issue.
Or are you saying that is fine?
(can't find 2011 data but its not going to be much better)
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