Trade unionists win 'racist' monkey cartoon case
Trade unionists win 'racist' monkey cartoon case
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Halb

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53,012 posts

214 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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What a load of craziness. The see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil trope used as a horrible slur by Unison. Seems it is run by monkeys.

Four trade-unionists who were accused of racism after drawing a satirical cartoon of the three wise monkeys who "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" have won a four-and-a-half year legal battle.At the tribunal, Unison insisted the leaflet was racist. Mr Williams, the only SOC member to give evidence, said it had “caused him racial offence”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

jmorgan

36,010 posts

315 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Gotta love the the unions. Absolutely fair and above board not like the corporations.

motco

17,662 posts

277 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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It's easy to offend the Union of Professional Umbrage Takers

Their mission statement:-

Ready to Take Offence at Any Time, at Any Thing


Negative Creep

26,140 posts

258 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Telegraph said:
The ordeal of the so-called “Unison Four” began at the union’s annual conference, in June 2007. Mr Kelly, former secretary of the Bromley branch; Onay Kasab, former secretary of the Greenwich branch; Brian Debus, 64, former chairman of Hackney branch; and Suzanne Muna, 45, former secretary of the Tenants Services Authority branch had all submitted motions which were rejected by the union’s Standing Orders Committee (SOC).
Doesn't sound like a particularly white name to me...

freecar

4,249 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Negative Creep said:
Telegraph said:
The ordeal of the so-called “Unison Four” began at the union’s annual conference, in June 2007. Mr Kelly, former secretary of the Bromley branch; Onay Kasab, former secretary of the Greenwich branch; Brian Debus, 64, former chairman of Hackney branch; and Suzanne Muna, 45, former secretary of the Tenants Services Authority branch had all submitted motions which were rejected by the union’s Standing Orders Committee (SOC).
Doesn't sound like a particularly white name to me...
Indeed, I'll bet they didn't know which way to look charging one black man with being racist towards another black man!

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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freecar said:
Negative Creep said:
Telegraph said:
The ordeal of the so-called “Unison Four” began at the union’s annual conference, in June 2007. Mr Kelly, former secretary of the Bromley branch; Onay Kasab, former secretary of the Greenwich branch; Brian Debus, 64, former chairman of Hackney branch; and Suzanne Muna, 45, former secretary of the Tenants Services Authority branch had all submitted motions which were rejected by the union’s Standing Orders Committee (SOC).
Doesn't sound like a particularly white name to me...
Indeed, I'll bet they didn't know which way to look charging one black man with being racist towards another black man!
But he isn't black, and can you only get black v white racism?

That is not the point though, the whole case was a farce and waste of money.

freecar

4,249 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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elster said:
and can you only get black v white racism?
Pretty much yes, any slurs based upon another minorities background could equally be applied to most minorities, therefore if the person making those statements is also part of a minority it becomes a bit of an oxymoron.

Besides, who on earth thinks a monkey is racist other than football fans who are too thick to come up with anything else.

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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freecar said:
elster said:
and can you only get black v white racism?
Pretty much yes, any slurs based upon another minorities background could equally be applied to most minorities, therefore if the person making those statements is also part of a minority it becomes a bit of an oxymoron.

Besides, who on earth thinks a monkey is racist other than football fans who are too thick to come up with anything else.
So you don't get racism of India v Pakistan or Serbs v Croats?

The two guys may be from completely different walks of life, so racism could have been implied. The fact is that the poster isn't racist and any retard could see that.

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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elster said:
and can you only get black v white racism?
No you NEVER get racism towards whites, haven't you noticed that? Just because it happens as much if not more than the other way round it never seems to appear as a possibility in courts.

Negative Creep

26,140 posts

258 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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elster said:
freecar said:
elster said:
and can you only get black v white racism?
Pretty much yes, any slurs based upon another minorities background could equally be applied to most minorities, therefore if the person making those statements is also part of a minority it becomes a bit of an oxymoron.

Besides, who on earth thinks a monkey is racist other than football fans who are too thick to come up with anything else.
So you don't get racism of India v Pakistan or Serbs v Croats?

The two guys may be from completely different walks of life, so racism could have been implied. The fact is that the poster isn't racist and any retard could see that.
Of course you do, it's just that in the PC world it's only white people who can be racist

freecar

4,249 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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elster said:
freecar said:
elster said:
and can you only get black v white racism?
Pretty much yes, any slurs based upon another minorities background could equally be applied to most minorities, therefore if the person making those statements is also part of a minority it becomes a bit of an oxymoron.

Besides, who on earth thinks a monkey is racist other than football fans who are too thick to come up with anything else.
So you don't get racism of India v Pakistan or Serbs v Croats?

The two guys may be from completely different walks of life, so racism could have been implied. The fact is that the poster isn't racist and any retard could see that.
That's not racism though, it's territoriality, India and Pakistan are neighbours who don't get on same with the serbs and croats.

Racism is using stereotype to denigrate a person you generally know nothing about, if you're having a row with your neighbour it's not because of the colour of his skin.

carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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freecar said:
elster said:
and can you only get black v white racism?
Pretty much yes, any slurs based upon another minorities background could equally be applied to most minorities, therefore if the person making those statements is also part of a minority it becomes a bit of an oxymoron.
Racism has nothing to do with minorities apart from in the minds of lefty imbeciles.

freecar

4,249 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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carmonk said:
freecar said:
elster said:
and can you only get black v white racism?
Pretty much yes, any slurs based upon another minorities background could equally be applied to most minorities, therefore if the person making those statements is also part of a minority it becomes a bit of an oxymoron.
Racism has nothing to do with minorities apart from in the minds of lefty imbeciles.
I'm sorry are you calling me a lefty imbecile?

Or do you have some real input to give? As if all you are going to do is do a fly by name calling without having any decent discussion I'd respectfully ask that you fk off.

carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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freecar said:
carmonk said:
freecar said:
elster said:
and can you only get black v white racism?
Pretty much yes, any slurs based upon another minorities background could equally be applied to most minorities, therefore if the person making those statements is also part of a minority it becomes a bit of an oxymoron.
Racism has nothing to do with minorities apart from in the minds of lefty imbeciles.
I'm sorry are you calling me a lefty imbecile?

Or do you have some real input to give? As if all you are going to do is do a fly by name calling without having any decent discussion I'd respectfully ask that you fk off.
That is my input, it's exactly what I said. And if the cap fits...

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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I don't get it.
It was a cartoon of Monkeys. No mention of race anywhere.

Are monkeys now racist?

Are Deaf, Dumb or Blind primates a race?


confused



Edited by odyssey2200 on Sunday 4th March 21:20

Allanv

3,540 posts

217 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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I will bite if you want, we are ALL part of one race which is the human race.

Racism is a political PC nonsense that makes for a sectioned society, truly false and in favour of everyone else except a white person. This is the worse part of politics to section a single portion of the human race and deem it responsible for the worlds ill's and to allow it to be blamed for being responsible for "racism"

All folk anywhere in the world can be responsible for upsetting someone from another county or religion or even maybe a sexual preference, this should be addressed and not section one from the other. Racism is a political extreme, see above.

Discrimination fits better than racism due to the fact that we are all human and therefore cannot be racist.

Now let's get down to discrimination again it must and has to encompass everyone, and it matters not your colour, creed or nationality. I say this because a white person in a political sense in unable to use the so called immoral race card " As we know it is a false pretence idea".

This in itself is racism if you will due to the fact that one part of the world's population is exempt from being protected by fake laws.

So if racism is to be used then 70% of the world are being discriminated against by 30% of the rest due to political insecurity and absolute misunderstanding of the world they live in.

So the laws designed to protect the minority actually affects the majority of the world without the right to defend a false ideological pile of crap.