So Labour win the next election....

[Big E 118]

So the latest opinion polls suggest a sharp decline in Tory voters and increase in Labour.

So what would happen if (purely hypothetical) a Labour government regained power (now) with the state of our economy?

We all know there's no money in the pot and there's no chance of borrowing any more so how would they fund another "benefit society"? I guess "the rich" would be taxed (more) heavily and more stealth taxes would appear but we've seen that that doesn't generate enough to cover even current spending, let alone what they'd promise to increase spending to.

I really can't see how this country could function under another Labour government.

[Du1point8]

It would be great to see them win... then the fkers can fix the mess they made.

All the st they say about tories doing it all wrong with the cuts, etc... all back pedalled in seconds...

Milbands head would explode with having to deal with it all and cut back on the whole public sector and behave on public spending.

[Devil2575]

It's a real possibility.

Reform of the NHS was a real own goal for the Tories. Whether you think it was required or not it was the wrong time to do it given all the other unpopular things they have had to do.

To be honest, it's not really going to be case of labour winning it, but the conservatives could well lose it.

Their best chance is that the economy recovers before the next election.

[Fittster]

Darling was pleding more cuts than Osbornes plans.

I'd like to see the Lib Dems wiped out at the next election due to the way they have turned their back on their pre-elections policies. What exactly is the point of voting for any party if they are likely to completely change their position post election?

[Puggit]

Devil2575 said:

It's a real possibility.

Reform of the NHS was a real own goal for the Tories. Whether you think it was required or not it was the wrong time to do it given all the other unpopular things they have had to do.

To be honest, it's not really going to be case of labour winning it, but the conservatives could well lose it.

Their best chance is that the economy recovers before the next election.

Spot on. Reform of the NHS wasn't necessary at this stage. There's so much else to focus on.

[thinfourth2]

its a huge pity they didn't win the last election

[Man-At-Arms]

Fittster said:

What exactly is the point of voting for any party if they are likely to completely change their position post election?

but as it is a coalition government that has power, all pre election promises are worth fk all

[Oakey]

I imagine they'd spend us into oblivion until the country was truly fked and then retire to warmer climates and leave the rest of us to it.

[mrmr96]

thinfourth2 said:

its a huge pity they didn't win the last election

Disagree.

I can sort of understand people saying that "they should be made to fix the mess they've made" but I don't think that's the right answer.

If you get a load of vandals come in and smash your house up, you won't invite them back in to tidy up again. They might learn a lesson, but more than likely they'll do a half arsed job and steal the rest of the things the left behind the first time.

You'd be better off getting some sensible people in, who have a proper idea of how to fix things, rather than getting the yobs back to teach them a lesson. Ultimately it's YOUR HOUSE so you just want it mended properly.

[Fittster]

Man-At-Arms said:

Fittster said:

What exactly is the point of voting for any party if they are likely to completely change their position post election?

but as it is a coalition government that has power, all pre election promises are worth fk all

If I say vote for me and I'll take position X on a particular policy area, then post election I take the opposing position Y because it gets me into power then I think those elected me have every write to be pissed off.

I'm supposed to represent their views even if that means I'm outside government. If I really want I can always call a bi-election and say "Well if you want me to be part of the government I'm going to have to take position Y, do you still support me"?

[Big E 118]

Puggit said:

Devil2575 said:

It's a real possibility.

Reform of the NHS was a real own goal for the Tories. Whether you think it was required or not it was the wrong time to do it given all the other unpopular things they have had to do.

To be honest, it's not really going to be case of labour winning it, but the conservatives could well lose it.

Their best chance is that the economy recovers before the next election.

Spot on. Reform of the NHS wasn't necessary at this stage. There's so much else to focus on.

Agree with this, NHS reforms are a very emotive subject. They are needed but lets stop wasting money elsewhere first then look at how much we have to cut while still maintaining a decent health service.

[MiniMan64]

I'd imagine they'd stick with all the Tory cuts, add a few more of their own, and then blame it on the previous goverment.

Just like most goverments do.

[Big E 118]

MiniMan64 said:

I'd imagine they'd stick with all the Tory cuts, add a few more of their own, and then blame it on the previous goverment.

Just like most goverments do.

"PistonHeads Cynicism Matters"

[thinfourth2]

mrmr96 said:

thinfourth2 said:

its a huge pity they didn't win the last election

Disagree.

I can sort of understand people saying that "they should be made to fix the mess they've made" but I don't think that's the right answer.

If you get a load of vandals come in and smash your house up, you won't invite them back in to tidy up again. They might learn a lesson, but more than likely they'll do a half arsed job and steal the rest of the things the left behind the first time.

You'd be better off getting some sensible people in, who have a proper idea of how to fix things, rather than getting the yobs back to teach them a lesson. Ultimately it's YOUR HOUSE so you just want it mended properly.

Ah but most folk see the tories as the vandals where as labour is seen as that nice kid from next door who comes rounds and helps you round the house. Just for some reason when he is round someone else pops in and sts on your bed and nicks your silver.

A few more years of labour and folk might realise the nice the nice kid next door is the phantom pillow stter

[dandarez]

Cameron was harking on about dementia and Alzheimers yesterday.

Governments are blessed with suffering from forms of both... well, as soon as they are in power they 'forget' immediately what they promised!

A lot of people have now become very disenchanted with Cameron, even in Tory ranks, and in less than 2 years.
What did he say on the steps of No 10 in May 2010...

'I came into politics because I love this country, I think its best days still lie ahead'.
Coded he meant:
'I came into politics because I love the EU, I think its best days still lie ahead when I become EU President.'

If he carries on like this, Labour could win easily next time, and it could be hard run fight for second... UKIP I believe will surge thanks to a split Tory vote and a totally demoralised (and bound to be decimated) Lib/Dems.

[Gargamel]

Two things

I trust my fellow countrymen to show the perspicacity to recognise that nothing good will ever come of Ed Milliband

I trust Ed Milliband to shoot himself in the foot on countless occasions between now and the next election, and if he won't he has an entire team, who will (Balls, yvette, harpoonperson,livingstone, abbott etc)

[speedy_thrills]

Most polls I've seen have indicated Con+Lib ahead of Lab. It's looked unlikely the Conservatives could do it alone so far however. What can the Conservatives do to reach out to less affluent lower middle class and skilled working class voters for support?

Linky to wiki with poll results.

[colonel c]

speedy_thrills said:

Most polls I've seen have indicated Con+Lib ahead of Lab. It's looked unlikely the Conservatives could do it alone so far however. What can the Conservatives do to reach out to less affluent lower middle class and skilled working class voters for support?

Linky to wiki with poll results.

I doubt very much we will see a Con+Lid coalition fighting the next election.

[davepoth]

speedy_thrills said:

Most polls I've seen have indicated Con+Lib ahead of Lab. It's looked unlikely the Conservatives could do it alone so far however. What can the Conservatives do to reach out to less affluent lower middle class and skilled working class voters for support?

Linky to wiki with poll results.

Make them feel richer, that's the only thing that will work.

The NHS thing has swung the electorate towards Labour due to effective PR. If we have a fuel tanker strike it'll go back the other way quite quickly if the Tories can make effective hay out of it.

[BoRED S2upid]

Big E 118 said:

We all know there's no money in the pot and there's no chance of borrowing any more

No chance of borrowing any more money??? Isn't the Government still borrowing Billions every single month?