Soft penalties, again!

[Lost_BMW]

A hot under the collar rant.

Just watched BBC's 'Modern Spies' on iPlayer and am left bemused, for the umpteenth time, about our lax sentencing policies.

The programme featured the sting and bust of a British Jihadi, Khasi Rhaman, who had openly boasted on TV of going to Afghanistan to kill UK and US troops, whilst still here, again boasted about how much he was looking forward to killing them when actually abroad having had his training and then came back to do god knows what.

In the sting he tried to buy a handgun, AK47, three Uzis with 3000 rounds and, later, upped that to try to get rpgs and even surface to air missiles. Who knows what carnage he planned to unleash.

He was busted and given... 9 years. So a true enemy of the state is tooling up to murder British citizens and will probably be free (to start again, after influencing how many other religionist dolts?) after less than five years. I utterly despair. I though the govt. and judicial system was supposed to protect us.

[carmonk]

It's OK because the government will spend £5m/pa of our tax money on 'monitoring' him to ensure he doesn't leave his taxpayer-funded luxury house too often, and make sure he doesn't spend his benefit money on bombs.

[Puggit]

I thought it was a thread about Man Utd playing at Old Trafford...

[davepoth]

9 years eh? How angry are you to find out that he will only serve half of that?

[Lost_BMW]

davepoth said:

9 years eh? How angry are you to find out that he will only serve half of that?

That was a factor in the disgust that led to the pot.

Nine years would be a disgrace given what that st was planning, but 4 1/2. We must look like mugs to the terrorists. He was caught bang to rights, no doubt at all about his guilt, so for me it would be, 100%, execution. Given we live in 'liberal' times then life at least - and without it being cushy.

[Mojooo]

I have to say I thought he was a case for 'bang him up forever for being a permanent danger' and was surprised at the short sentence.

Not suprised at all though.

[SystemParanoia]

should have dropped him off half way between here and guantanamo bay.

[richinleeds]

Yep he should have been released...................then he could have mysteriously disappeared

[AJS-]

It makes it seem a bit stupid that we are being asked to throw away endless civil liberties and privacy, have our communications monitored and all the rest of it, then a genuine, self confessed terrorist who wants to destroy us is locked up and will be out in 5 years.

[Digga]

AJS- said:

It makes it seem a bit stupid that we are being asked to throw away endless civil liberties and privacy, have our communications monitored and all the rest of it, then a genuine, self confessed terrorist who wants to destroy us is locked up and will be out in 5 years.

Absolutely. I have to get half naked every time I want to travel by air - x-rayed on average every tenth time - and this , overtly intent on causing harm to others, is given barely a slap on the wrist.

[Jamie VTS]

I wonder what would have happened to me if I was planning similar activities in his country!

[sday12]

Outrage noted, there a great garden feature on page 28 for when you've calmed down.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Edited by sday12 on Wednesday 4th April 09:29

[Ozzie Osmond]

USA terrorist - plea bargain in exchange for lots of information - 5 year sentence

UK terrorist - no plea bargain "it's just not British" - no information - 9 year sentence - out in 5

• Who's the fool?

[Lost_BMW]

sday12 said:

Outrage noted, there a great garden feature on page 28 for when you've calmed down.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Edited by sday12 on Wednesday 4th April 09:29

Yawn...

As long as it's not about invasive weeds pushing out native plants?

[Lost_BMW]

Ozzie Osmond said:

USA terrorist - plea bargain in exchange for lots of information - 5 year sentence

UK terrorist - no plea bargain "it's just not British" - no information - 9 year sentence - out in 5

• Who's the fool?

Erm... that'll be us then?

[AshVX220]

sday12 said:

Outrage noted, there a great garden feature on page 28 for when you've calmed down.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Edited by sday12 on Wednesday 4th April 09:29

So you think the sentance is quite aequate do you?

[speedy_thrills]

But he won’t be much of a threat now will he? After all he will be monitored now constantly and keeping someone in prison is expensive. Also he never committed to buy the firearms which may have dented the case against him.

I thought the most interesting bit was about the Chinese spying for industrial purposes. There has been an increase in awareness about information security in many industries. I’ve always thought this would be a really interesting line of work to develop and probe security procedure or systems looking for weaknesses. For example often businesses that spend millions or more on cyber security entrust a large amount of very sensitive data to workers in high turnover, low wage positions.

[AshVX220]

SystemParanoia said:

should have dropped him off half way between here and guantanamo bay.

Indeed, "Hands to Bathe" at 30,000ft.

[Lost_BMW]

speedy_thrills said:

But he won’t be much of a threat now will he? After all he will be monitored now constantly and keeping someone in prison is expensive.

And that will be pennies won't it?

Also he never committed to buy the firearms which may have dented the case against him. WTF - so he never had any intention of murdering anyone then? A ridiculous 'nicety' of the law - he's as guilty as anything. You sound like you're happy with this state of affairs.

[Mojocvh]

speedy_thrills said:

But he won’t be much of a threat now will he?

Really?? what about his influence on the lot shown on

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

tip of the iceberg indeed.