Guido releases files on crimes committed by journalists
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Guido said:
In the course of the Inquiry Leveson has received prima facie evidence of some thousands of crimes committed by hundreds of journalists. The Operation Motorman files gathered by the Information Commissioner expose a culture of criminality in the day-to-day functioning of the media. The corrupting of police and other offices of the crown was a matter of course not only at the News of the World and other Murdoch titles, it was also the case at the Mail and the Mirror newspaper groups as well. The silence on this issue from these newspapers is because they fear a circular firing squad.
Leveson has the evidence required to initiate criminal actions and civil actions by thousands of victims of crimes committed by newspaper journalists. Guido challenged Leveson to his face to publish the evidence, thus allowing the victims of industrial scale illegal invasions of privacy to get justice. Leveson claimed it was difficult nine years on. Guido understands that there have been two applications to Leveson to release the Operation Motorman files. The applications, heard in private, were refused.
So in Britain we have a situation where the judge charged with investigating the crimes carried out by the media is covering up their crimes. There is an overwhelming public interest in the victims getting justice.
The Operation Motorman files are huge, the thousands of entries contained in the files are a mere snapshot of the industrial scale criminality carried out by the press. Today Guido is releasing the Blue Book section of the Operation Motorman files covering 1,028 News International related entries out of a total of some 17,000. These files are known to most newspaper editors and to Guido's knowledge no action has been taken against the journalists named within, some of whom are now senior journalists. To Guido's knowledge Guardian journalists have possession of the files covering the Mail and Mirror groups. One wonders why they so far have only been willing to name the names of journalists from the Murdoch press
Link to Guido article and filesLeveson has the evidence required to initiate criminal actions and civil actions by thousands of victims of crimes committed by newspaper journalists. Guido challenged Leveson to his face to publish the evidence, thus allowing the victims of industrial scale illegal invasions of privacy to get justice. Leveson claimed it was difficult nine years on. Guido understands that there have been two applications to Leveson to release the Operation Motorman files. The applications, heard in private, were refused.
So in Britain we have a situation where the judge charged with investigating the crimes carried out by the media is covering up their crimes. There is an overwhelming public interest in the victims getting justice.
The Operation Motorman files are huge, the thousands of entries contained in the files are a mere snapshot of the industrial scale criminality carried out by the press. Today Guido is releasing the Blue Book section of the Operation Motorman files covering 1,028 News International related entries out of a total of some 17,000. These files are known to most newspaper editors and to Guido's knowledge no action has been taken against the journalists named within, some of whom are now senior journalists. To Guido's knowledge Guardian journalists have possession of the files covering the Mail and Mirror groups. One wonders why they so far have only been willing to name the names of journalists from the Murdoch press
Hopefully we'll get to see the rest of them one day as well...
Had a flip through the spreadsheet and struggling to see what the fuss is all about. We already know the celebrity names on the list have been spied on and they already know it too. The only name that I recognise that will really cause a fuss is Dowler.
I'm sure at least one or two minor journalists will be sacrificed to the wolves if things get too sticky but at the end of the day we all have to realise that the legal system/ political class/ journalists/ major industrialists are all in this together. They see the whole thing as a game, where sometimes one group takes the heat and the next week its another group but in the end the whole thing equals out as long as they are still in a position to exploit their positions. Only people who find themselves in the middle of this by accident or terrible design (the Dowlers, Dr David Kelly.) are the ones who end up getting hurt.
And some those celebrities (not all) have promoted themselves through the media 24/7 but then promote themselves some more by complaining that they have had their privacy invaded. Some of them have leaked 'stories' to the media (Miss Price?) in order to grasp the headlines in the first place. Sure I wouldn't want people tapping my phones or going through my garbage but if you dance the devil you have to pay the fiddler. There are celebrities who manage to keep their names out of the papers, how do they do it? Perhaps by not turning up premiers with their boobs hanging out, getting pictured in the gym in their underwear or 'opening up their exclusive Malibu retreat for our readers'.
Do you really think that people like Desmond don't take it as a challenge when someone sells the rights to their "exclusive Scottish wedding" for a figure he considers too much that he will then try everything to find out if they are cheating?
Unfortuntely, the culture is now too far ingrained for anything to be done about it. Its yet another reason why this country is screwed.
Errrrr.............
right kids!!!!
I'm sure at least one or two minor journalists will be sacrificed to the wolves if things get too sticky but at the end of the day we all have to realise that the legal system/ political class/ journalists/ major industrialists are all in this together. They see the whole thing as a game, where sometimes one group takes the heat and the next week its another group but in the end the whole thing equals out as long as they are still in a position to exploit their positions. Only people who find themselves in the middle of this by accident or terrible design (the Dowlers, Dr David Kelly.) are the ones who end up getting hurt.
And some those celebrities (not all) have promoted themselves through the media 24/7 but then promote themselves some more by complaining that they have had their privacy invaded. Some of them have leaked 'stories' to the media (Miss Price?) in order to grasp the headlines in the first place. Sure I wouldn't want people tapping my phones or going through my garbage but if you dance the devil you have to pay the fiddler. There are celebrities who manage to keep their names out of the papers, how do they do it? Perhaps by not turning up premiers with their boobs hanging out, getting pictured in the gym in their underwear or 'opening up their exclusive Malibu retreat for our readers'.
Do you really think that people like Desmond don't take it as a challenge when someone sells the rights to their "exclusive Scottish wedding" for a figure he considers too much that he will then try everything to find out if they are cheating?
Unfortuntely, the culture is now too far ingrained for anything to be done about it. Its yet another reason why this country is screwed.
Errrrr.............
right kids!!!!
Spiritual_Beggar said:
TTwiggy said:
And replaced by what? State-sponsored 'news',
Erm...isn't this what we have at the moment is some shape or form?audidoody said:
The MSN wouldn't churn out the hacked-pap if the Great British Public didn't clamour for it.
Most news outlets are loss making. They only churn out what they do because they're run by deranged sycophants who dont mind digging into their own pockets to get across their 'views'. TTwiggy said:
And replaced by what? State-sponsored 'news', or 'Doreen blogging on the X-Factor'?
You honestly believe the MSM is staffed by people who have a clue?! Most can barely string a sentence together.There are plenty of informative, worthwhile blogs out there, or internet radio shows that actually are factual, and dont try and condense a whole story into 30 seconds of crap.
MSM is nothing more than a bunch of press releases selectively tied together.
TTwiggy said:
No - despite the great PH hatred of the 'commie pinko' BBC, or the 'questionable' connections between the likes of Sky and the government, we are a long way from 'Korean blessed leader lands on Mars'.
Not just the TV media though.....All the papers have an 'affiliation' for one side or another...
12gauge said:
TTwiggy said:
And replaced by what? State-sponsored 'news', or 'Doreen blogging on the X-Factor'?
You honestly believe the MSM is staffed by people who have a clue?! Most can barely string a sentence together.There are plenty of informative, worthwhile blogs out there, or internet radio shows that actually are factual, and dont try and condense a whole story into 30 seconds of crap.
MSM is nothing more than a bunch of press releases selectively tied together.
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