London Mayor Thread
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martin84

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5,366 posts

177 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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There doesn't seem to be a dedicated thread on this but various bits and bobs spread around.

Who caught the debate on Sky News last night? I didn't see all of it but I would say the only serious threat to Boris is second preference votes. Green and possibly Lib Dem voters will probably put Ken as their second choice so Boris needs a good first round victory.

I like Boris Johnson but in a panel debate setting he can struggle especially up against two accomplished public speakers like Livingstone and Paddick.

Regiment

2,799 posts

183 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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I caught the comments afterwards where they were talking about the tweets, made me laugh how different can view the same thing but jump to polar opposite opinions of who was stronger. Quite a few people thought Boris appeared stronger but no one really made any knockout blowws


martin84

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5,366 posts

177 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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Current Polls suggest Boris will win albiet narrowly after two rounds. Livingstone is a bit too close behind him for comfort though. Certainly within the 'margin of error' political analysts so often talk about.

dandarez

13,904 posts

307 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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In view of comments should the heading not be changed to

London Mayor Hanging on by a Thread

wink

martin84

Original Poster:

5,366 posts

177 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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I can report good news from the Polls at least - Green's are only polling 2% smile

hornetrider

63,161 posts

229 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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When is the election? Will the winner be Mayor for the Olympics? Can't imagine that odious grinning and representing us to the world.

martin84

Original Poster:

5,366 posts

177 months

Friday 20th April 2012
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hornetrider said:
When is the election? Will the winner be Mayor for the Olympics? Can't imagine that odious grinning and representing us to the world.
3rd of May with the winner being sworn in the following day.

Dixie68

3,091 posts

211 months

Saturday 21st April 2012
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I despise politicians of all parties yet weirdly I don't see the London Mayor as a party political thing. What I want, as someone who lives & works in London, is someone who can do the job. Ken has a track record of NOT being up to it, (whilst lining his own pockets & those of his cronies), yet Boris has done a lot of good, sensible things.
I'm voting for Boris because of that and Ken can go fk himself.

stevejh

799 posts

228 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Latest poll has Boris on 51% and Ken on 49%.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/mayor/boris-joh...

JagLover

46,184 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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stevejh said:
Latest poll has Boris on 51% and Ken on 49%.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/mayor/boris-joh...
Too close for comfort when you take into account the Muslim postal vote.

Fleegle

16,706 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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What are these polls? And who gets asked?

I’m 47 now and never been asked by Mori or whoever carrries these polls out.

I’m sure it’s just a little bloke with a weak bladder in the corner of a room making it up as he goes along.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to describe Ken

FourWheelDrift

91,932 posts

308 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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Fleegle said:
What are these polls? And who gets asked?

I’m 47 now and never been asked by Mori or whoever carrries these polls out.

I’m sure it’s just a little bloke with a weak bladder in the corner of a room making it up as he goes along.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to describe Ken
Friend of mine was once registered with one of the marketing companies (not Mori), they paid him something each time he was called up IIRC. They would ring him up and ask him things. He would lie, often outrageously. They employ people to call up their lists who have no interest in what the person at the other end say except to log the call and record the answers to set questions.

From here it seems Mori call people randomly (nuisance callers) - http://www.ipsos-mori.com/contactus/approachedbyus...

JMGS4

8,889 posts

294 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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JagLover said:
Too close for comfort when you take into account the crooked Muslim postal vote.
Corrected for accuracy...seems like this part of the population across GB are the ones with the fake voters?!?!?!?

ninja-lewis

5,261 posts

214 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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hora said:
That is odd. How can it be soo close? I mean there are other candidates right and THAT close?

Am I being alittle 'thick'?
The election is by Supplementary Vote. Each voter marks their first and second preference. If no candidiate receives 50%+1 of the first preferences then the top two candidiates (by first preference) advance to the second stage while the others are eliminated. Voters of the eliminated candidiates are then redistributed according to their second preferences amongst the two remaining candidiates. If they don't indicate a second preference, they don't get redistributed.

The actual polls ask for your first preference and second preference, providing complete results. But the headlines only tend to mention the second stage of Boris v Ken (since they're the only two with a realistic chance) - hence 51-49.



zetec

5,033 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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zcacogp

11,239 posts

268 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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JMGS4 said:
JagLover said:
Too close for comfort when you take into account the crooked Muslim postal vote.
Corrected for accuracy...seems like this part of the population across GB are the ones with the fake voters?!?!?!?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/london-mayor-election/9218506/Ken-Livingstones-supporters-accused-of-harvesting-postal-ballot-papers.html

The usual demographic, bringing their third-world tribal behaviour to the UK. But it's all cultural, natch, so nothing we can do about it.


Oli.

Pesty

42,655 posts

280 months

Monday 23rd April 2012
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zetec said:
tts

JMGS4

8,889 posts

294 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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zcacogp said:
The usual demographic, bringing their third-world tribal behaviour to the UK. But it's all cultural, natch, so nothing we can do about it.
As in the past in Glasgow (Govan) asian MP, Leicester and of course everyones favourite Vaz.......
Time that it was made compulsary to vote, whereby you MUST appear with your photo ID (cards), any other system can be fraudulent. BTW a "none of these" vote must be on the cards as well.

zcacogp

11,239 posts

268 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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JMGS4 said:
Time that it was made compulsary to vote, whereby you MUST appear with your photo ID (cards), any other system can be fraudulent. BTW a "none of these" vote must be on the cards as well.
I'll second that, very happily.

It astonishes me that democracy - something central to our country's existence, mindset and being - can be so wide open for flagrant abuse. And, not only that but the fact that such abuse is not investigated or countered!

(It's also a disgrace that immigrant communities who can trace their arrival in this country to a desire to live somewhere more democratic than 'home' then seek to bring down that democracy.)


Oli.

s1962a

7,442 posts

186 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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I'm a bit confused about registering to vote. If my name is on the council register (from a few years ago) do I need to do fill out another form to vote in this election? I think the deadline to register has passed in my local council, but i'm wondering if you don't need to do this if you're already on the register from previous years.