Nadine Dorries and the 2 posh lads!
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I think she has a point, there priviliged background cannot possibly be a good grounding for understanding the hardships that many face.
Interestingly I couldn't find a link on the beeb site:
http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16214841
Interestingly I couldn't find a link on the beeb site:
http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16214841
Eric Mc said:
So, would you exclude politicians from power who haven't had "hardship" (whatever that sctually means) in their lives?
Sounds a bit discriminatory to me.
No not at all, but they will be devoid of the "real world" difficulties and the true price of living, of course Cameron has had tragedy and hardship with his son dying, but they are removed from the costs of true living that the majority face.Sounds a bit discriminatory to me.
In the wider sense it is quite clear that anyone who actually WANTS to be a politician should be automatically disbarred from holding public office.
However, given the imperfect world in which we live and the fortunate state of democracy with which we are blessed, it behoves us all to embrace these poor souls and help them so they can actually help us.
The Friendly Fire from this stupid person is hardly helpful to getting the bills paid and keeping order in our society! Grounds for automatic dismissal by her electorate methinks!
However, given the imperfect world in which we live and the fortunate state of democracy with which we are blessed, it behoves us all to embrace these poor souls and help them so they can actually help us.
The Friendly Fire from this stupid person is hardly helpful to getting the bills paid and keeping order in our society! Grounds for automatic dismissal by her electorate methinks!
K12beano said:
In the wider sense it is quite clear that anyone who actually WANTS to be a politician should be automatically disbarred from holding public office.
However, given the imperfect world in which we live and the fortunate state of democracy with which we are blessed, it behoves us all to embrace these poor souls and help them so they can actually help us.
The Friendly Fire from this stupid person is hardly helpful to getting the bills paid and keeping order in our society! Grounds for automatic dismissal by her electorate methinks!
What............so as an MP, if you say what you are thinking and its not liked by the party you'll get thrown out, backward step if you ask me.However, given the imperfect world in which we live and the fortunate state of democracy with which we are blessed, it behoves us all to embrace these poor souls and help them so they can actually help us.
The Friendly Fire from this stupid person is hardly helpful to getting the bills paid and keeping order in our society! Grounds for automatic dismissal by her electorate methinks!
Not impressed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
Is the answer to this, to exclude everybody with a public school education from Westminster? . . . . . . . if that were the case, both sides of the house would be f
ked, as they all have similar backgrounds (Public school -> Oxbridge)
I think we have approached the right time, to review how democracy in the UK works. We have the technology to implement some form of direct democracy like the Swiss system (however we have too many people who would see it as a new version of those awful TV programs)
ked, as they all have similar backgrounds (Public school -> Oxbridge)I think we have approached the right time, to review how democracy in the UK works. We have the technology to implement some form of direct democracy like the Swiss system (however we have too many people who would see it as a new version of those awful TV programs)
garos said:
Eric Mc said:
So, would you exclude politicians from power who haven't had "hardship" (whatever that sctually means) in their lives?
Sounds a bit discriminatory to me.
No not at all, but they will be devoid of the "real world" difficulties and the true price of living, of course Cameron has had tragedy and hardship with his son dying, but they are removed from the costs of true living that the majority face.Sounds a bit discriminatory to me.
K12beano said:
Not impressed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...
So she's off to UKIP!I don't see where she's going with this, she's merely appealing to the politics of emotion (which Labour are experts of(. No solution just rhetoric.
I couldn't give a toss if the PM has never had to get the Value range of tinned Tomatoes over the posh stuff. If I have to then that's up to me and me alone to tackle. I want the PM concentrating on running the country and the businesses that goes into making the tinned tomatoes and putting it on the shelf.
I couldn't give a toss if the PM has never had to get the Value range of tinned Tomatoes over the posh stuff. If I have to then that's up to me and me alone to tackle. I want the PM concentrating on running the country and the businesses that goes into making the tinned tomatoes and putting it on the shelf.
AndrewW-G said:
garos said:
Eric Mc said:
So, would you exclude politicians from power who haven't had "hardship" (whatever that sctually means) in their lives?
Sounds a bit discriminatory to me.
No not at all, but they will be devoid of the "real world" difficulties and the true price of living, of course Cameron has had tragedy and hardship with his son dying, but they are removed from the costs of true living that the majority face.Sounds a bit discriminatory to me.
Edited by garos on Tuesday 24th April 13:17
I completely agree with her statement.
I believe that members of parliament should only be paid the average UK wage and expenses should be truly scrutinised. Any other income needs to be curtailed unless it is something truly transparent (income from a business that they own and used to run that is now run on their behalf while in office for example)
The position should be for people who truly want to make a difference and understand the difficulties and issues of the majority of UK citizens. MPs shouldnt be campaigning on solely what they are going to do but infact on what they have done for society too.
MPs and the PM are not here to 'govern' us but are infact our servant paid by us in order to see that society is fair, even and to make sure that everyone gets along.
Money is the root of all evil.
I believe that members of parliament should only be paid the average UK wage and expenses should be truly scrutinised. Any other income needs to be curtailed unless it is something truly transparent (income from a business that they own and used to run that is now run on their behalf while in office for example)
The position should be for people who truly want to make a difference and understand the difficulties and issues of the majority of UK citizens. MPs shouldnt be campaigning on solely what they are going to do but infact on what they have done for society too.
MPs and the PM are not here to 'govern' us but are infact our servant paid by us in order to see that society is fair, even and to make sure that everyone gets along.
Money is the root of all evil.
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