The EU Referendum

[AJS-]

Newest election thread, now that some Tories seem to be finally waking up to the fact that they're getting thumped at least partly because of UKIP, and there must be a possibility of a forthcoming referendum. Simple question, in or out?

[Puggit]

Out, and I have been of that persuasion since before Maastricht.

[AndrewW-G]

interesting results so far . . . 23 votes = 100% out

Yes I have updated the numbers

Edited by AndrewW-G on Saturday 5th May 08:18

[Einion Yrth]

AndrewW-G said:

interesting results so far . . . 16 votes = 100% out

The local lefties are still in bed, they'll crawl out of the woodwork around lunchtime.

[powerstroke]

AndrewW-G said:

interesting results so far . . . 16 votes = 100% out

Don't worry there will be a mong along soon to say how important our membership is
for trade and how its xenophobic to not want to be ruled by brussels

[heppers75]

Get out and put in place some structured border and trade agreements ought to stop the lefties bleating on about damaging business and travel etc.

In fairness if Hollande makes it in France we may well not have to worry about it as it may well collapse in on itself anyway!

[rogerthefish]

Einion Yrth said:

The local lefties are still in bed, they'll crawl out of the woodwork around lunchtime.

Interesting one that, a do you enjoy life poll started at say 6am would change around 11 or 12.

[pilchardthecat]

I dont know why people do political polls on PH - ukip won the "snap election tomorrow " thread...... it's even less representative than the Question Time audience

[powerstroke]

pilchardthecat said:

I dont know why people do political polls on PH - ukip won the "snap election tomorrow " thread...... it's even less representative than the Question Time audience

perhaps we could do a poll that joins up with a simalar one on mumsnet for ballance

[Smiler.]

powerstroke said:

pilchardthecat said:

I dont know why people do political polls on PH - ukip won the "snap election tomorrow " thread...... it's even less representative than the Question Time audience

perhaps we could do a poll that joins up with a simalar one on mumsnet for ballance

Should they be let out of the kitchen?

[powerstroke]

Smiler. said:

Should they be let out of the kitchen?

Umm good point

[JMGS4]

As a european resident but first and last a Brit, I supported the EEC and still do. However I do NOT support an unelected totalitarian federal state of Europe, especially one run by an idiot like Rumpy.... what a tw@!!!
The rest of the EU burocrats can also go f**k themselves with their overbearing and idiotic ideas.

You'll find that the majority of europeans don't want a U.S.E either!!!! They also weren't asked!!

[thinfourth2]

If we get the answer wrong will you ask us again until we get it right?

[speedy_thrills]

I doubt there will be a referendum any time soon, no matter who wins the Conservatives would lose. Also they are in a coalition that could collapse under such a bid which, given opinion in local elections and voting intention polls, would probably open the door for Labour. Just dealing with this one issue of deficit right now is inflicting damage at an unsustainable rate.

Labour will poke at this wound again and again of course.

[AJS-]

thinfourth2 said:

If we get the answer wrong will you ask us again until we get it right?

Getting the right answer so far, so unless the midday risers really spit the dummy, it won't be an issue.

That's how it works, see - get it wrong and you ask again 6 months later, get it right and you don't get asked again for 40 years.

[Happy82]

I believe that the EU was a good thing, however like anything related to politicians and government it has grown beyond the good (free trade/ borders etc)it provided and become a risk to our freedom.

Unfortunately, government always wants to grow and control our lives more and more, as such I'd vote to get out of the EU because at least then we'd have only one set of power hungry politicans trying to control us rather than two.

[madala]

....standing ten to one for out at this time....

I truely believe that we would be no worse off being out of the EU.....it might buck up our pathetic politicians and government to actually think about what THEY CAN DO for our beleagued country as opposed what they can do for themselves.....mind you the 'feckwits that they are it would not be much.....yes...I have had about enough of the EU and our various governments....and if that twunt "Millipede" gets voted in at the next election I am off out of this shoitehole which once was a grand place to live.

[dbdb]

pilchardthecat said:

I dont know why people do political polls on PH - ukip won the "snap election tomorrow " thread...... it's even less representative than the Question Time audience

Absolutely. PH is so staggeringly unrepresentative that I wonder sometimes whether the views espoused in News, Politics & Economics are even representative of the wider PistonHeads - or simply of posters in the N,P&E. section.

[martin84]

Think of it this way:

Do you want your country run by a group of unelected bureaucrats or do you want the EU to do it?

[900T-R]

JMGS4 said:

As a european resident but first and last a Brit, I supported the EEC and still do. However I do NOT support an unelected totalitarian federal state of Europe, especially one run by an idiot like Rumpy.... what a tw@!!!
The rest of the EU burocrats can also go f**k themselves with their overbearing and idiotic ideas.

You'll find that the majority of europeans don't want a U.S.E either!!!! They also weren't asked!!

Damn right. Nowt to do with being left or right either - the whole political spectrum has moved towards self-serving authoritarianism over the past 30 years or so. Time for a fking revolution methinks.

I'd be all for a federal European state if it were democratic and meant disposing of a layer or two of non-elected government moneywasting and interference lower down. Instead, the EC has created a few more.

Edited by 900T-R on Saturday 5th May 15:31