Discrimination against Britain's Armed Forces
Discrimination against Britain's Armed Forces
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Saddle bum

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4,211 posts

250 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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Warning: Pee boiler.

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I'd probably be arrested for assault if I saw members of the Armed Forces abused in public.

Brother D

4,452 posts

207 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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The difference between the UK and US attitude to their service men and women is the definition of polar opposite. - The US forces have there own lanes at airports, likely to be given lunch on the house, and have deep respect from the population.

Over in the UK as mentioned - spat at, abused, and refused service in shops - I did notice mobile phone shops mentioned (init).

But to be fair, the UK population is changing at an ever increasing rate, and I wonder who the forces actually represent? Two thirds of children now born in London are to foreign parents, with no signs of abating. I fear the tipping point is long gone.

turbobloke

117,533 posts

291 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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"A female RAF recruiter said that on more than one occasion members of the public have screamed 'baby killer' at her as she walked to work in her uniform."

WTF?

loafer123

16,764 posts

246 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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In the UK service personnel do not wear uniform off base, which I think is a mistake.

Personally, I consider the very real sacrifice by our armed forces to be hugely under-appreciated and I would happily pay for their lunch if I were in a restaurant where they were eating, for example.


Edited for tablet fat fingers.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

277 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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turbobloke said:
"A female RAF recruiter said that on more than one occasion members of the public have screamed 'baby killer' at her as she walked to work in her uniform."

WTF?
Leicester.

Porkbrain

406 posts

268 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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turbobloke said:
"A female RAF recruiter said that on more than one occasion members of the public have screamed 'baby killer' at her as she walked to work in her uniform."

WTF?
It is mentioned later in the article that she works in Leicester, so they just didn't state the ethnicity of whoever called her a baby killer, though it is not likely to be someone called Fred Bloggs.

This would really piss me off if I was still in, back in the late 60's and early 70's we always wore our uniforms when hitchiking - never had to wait long for a lift.

Not a common sport these days as people are a bit more affluent I suppose.

(I was obviously a bit slow typing that having seen the other replies :-)

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

191 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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I was in the forces when it was not allowed to wear uniform in public for normal reasons such as commuting, shopping etc. Due to the hostlities in Ireland.

It still surprises me when I see a serving member in uniform in Waitrose or picking their child up from my daghters school as to me it feels wrong, but that is just me being ingrained with the rules of the 90's.

However I was under the impression that support for forces personell was at an all time high at the moment.

It would be interesting to find out where these abusive comments were most common and from which type of people, I think there may be a link.

fadeaway

1,463 posts

257 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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Porkbrain said:
It is mentioned later in the article that she works in Leicester, so they just didn't state the ethnicity of whoever called her a baby killer, though it is not likely to be someone called Fred Bloggs.

This would really piss me off if I was still in, back in the late 60's and early 70's we always wore our uniforms when hitchiking - never had to wait long for a lift.

Not a common sport these days as people are a bit more affluent I suppose.
Rubbish.

IRA stopped that. If you wore your uniform off base in the 80s and 90s you'd have been shot or blown up

Halb

53,012 posts

214 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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Saddle bum said:
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I'd probably be arrested for assault if I saw members of the Armed Forces abused in public.
Don't watch Coppers on Channel Four then when they get a little leery.biggrin

turbobloke

117,533 posts

291 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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Porkbrain said:
It is mentioned later in the article that she works in Leicester
Sure, I read the article and it's still a solid 'wtf' from me on that one.

loafer123

16,764 posts

246 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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fadeaway said:
Porkbrain said:
It is mentioned later in the article that she works in Leicester, so they just didn't state the ethnicity of whoever called her a baby killer, though it is not likely to be someone called Fred Bloggs.

This would really piss me off if I was still in, back in the late 60's and early 70's we always wore our uniforms when hitchiking - never had to wait long for a lift.

Not a common sport these days as people are a bit more affluent I suppose.
Rubbish.

IRA stopped that. If you wore your uniform off base in the 80s and 90s you'd have been shot or blown up
True. Time to change the policy now?

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

191 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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loafer123 said:
True. Time to change the policy now?
Yep, let them wear uniform in public whilst carrying a loaded SA80 or GPMG smile

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

238 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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anonymous said:
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Would that be because of that city's "multicultural" nature?

loafer123

16,764 posts

246 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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Zaxxon said:
loafer123 said:
True. Time to change the policy now?
Yep, let them wear uniform in public whilst carrying a loaded SA80 or GPMG smile
Between us, I think we have this issue sorted...

marcosgt

11,506 posts

207 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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I live in Fleet and regularly see people in army and raf uniforms... Presumably there is no ban on them wearing uniforms off base.

I lived around here in the 90s too and you'd regularly see Paras, Gurkhas and QAs in full uniform, so unless the person who said you'd get blown up or shot then meant in NI specifically, they are wrong...

M

Edited by marcosgt on Saturday 12th May 23:29

Countdown

49,547 posts

227 months

Saturday 12th May 2012
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Brother D said:
- I did notice mobile phone shops mentioned (init).
That seems to be due to poor credit scores than any other reason

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

262 months

Sunday 13th May 2012
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This boils my piss as well. Naturally, there are many soldiers, airmen, and marines in airports here. I rarely see one pay for thier own meal. More often than not, the person paying the bill remains anonyomous. As a reservist now, the same often happens to me. To illustrate the affection we have for the UK forces, they are often seen in US airports as well and are treated with the same respect.

BruceV8

3,325 posts

278 months

Sunday 13th May 2012
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Countdown said:
Brother D said:
- I did notice mobile phone shops mentioned (init).
That seems to be due to poor credit scores than any other reason
Yes, but part of the reason for the poor credit score is the constantly changing address, made worse by absences from the UK market for a couple of years at at time. That is part of service life, but it doesn't seem to be recognised by the credit scorers.

That and young squaddies pissing all of their pay away on booze and loose women, and wasting whatever is left.

Galsia

2,266 posts

221 months

Sunday 13th May 2012
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Personally I don't think that members of the armed forces deserve either scorn or praise. They'te just doing the job that they chose to do, just like me..

Brother D

4,452 posts

207 months

Sunday 13th May 2012
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Galsia said:
Personally I don't think that members of the armed forces deserve either scorn or praise. They'te just doing the job that they chose to do, just like me..
That so? Your job involve a significant risk of being shot/blown-up and life changing injuries for not great pay? Tell me more...