RIP Joe Weider

[anonymous-user]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21914541

93 very fit years.

[Digga]

Sad, but does remind me of this.

[Driller]

Nooooooooo! A great icon has left us!

Proof that physical exercise leads to a long life though

[N88]

Was very sad to hear this

[anonymous-user]

Bit of a tainted legacy IMHO.

[N88]

djstevec said:

Bit of a tainted legacy IMHO.

How so?

[anonymous-user]

N88 said:

djstevec said:

Bit of a tainted legacy IMHO.

How so?

As the founder of the main professional bodybuilding organisation, he and his brother Ben set the rules and judging criteria the sport is pretty much based on, since the 50's. The complete lack of any drug testing, anti-drug stance (except lip service when required) or even acknowledging that their athletes were taking vast quantities of roids, GH, diuretics, insulin etc etc, whilst encouraging bigger, bigger, bigger in their competitions.

The list of dead athletes or those with serious ongoing health issues keeps growing and this only a selection;

Mike Mentzer died 2001 age 49 heart complications
Ray Mentzer died 2001 age 47 Berger's disease(build-up of cholesterol plaques in the arteries), endocarditis (an infection of the lining of the heart)
Ron Teufel died 2002 age 45 liver failure
Scott Klein died 2003 age 30 kidney failure and heart failure
Sonny Schmidt died 2004 age 51 cancer
Robert Benavente 2004 age 30 massive heart attack
Don Youngblood 2005 age 51 massive heart attack
Eduardo Kawak 2006 age 47 heart attack
Luke Wood 2011 age 35 kidney failure and heart failure
Mohammed Benaziza 1992 age 33 he took an injection of clenbuterol
Ray McNeil 1995 age 29 killed by his wife in an argument (also a pro bodybuilder)
Andreas Münzer 1996 age 31 liver and then kidneys failed
Art Atwood 2011 age 38 heart attack
Eddie Guerrero, 2005 age 38. acute heart failure due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease (artery wall thickens as a result of the accumulation of fatty materials such as cholesterol)
Dave Draper Feb 22, 2007 age 65 heart surgery from congestive heart failure
Erik Fromm died Feb 04, 2008 age 36 overdosed on fentanyl
Frank Hillebrand died Feb 19, 2011 age 45 heart attack
Steve Michalik, died May 24, 2012 age 63 According to Michalik, he suffered many serious health problems due to his steroid use. It started with him passing blood in his urine; a sign of the multiple liver tumors doctors later discovered. After recovering from these bouts with cancer Michalik suffered a heart attack, followed by a stroke.


Arnold Schwarzenegger tripple heart bypass still living
Don Long kidney failure still living
Tom Prince kidney failure still living
Flex Wheeler kidney transplant in 2003 still living
Ed Corney 1999 suffered a heart attack and 2 strokes still living
Boyer Coe August 11th, had quadruple heart bypass surgery. they discovered Boyer's blood was extremely thick, and three main arteries were almost completely blocked. The doctors performed open heart surgery right then and there he is still living
Danny Padilla survived a heart attack
Mike Martarazzo 39 2004 clogged arteries caused by steroid use(2007 heart attack triple bypass heart surgery) still living
Kris Dim born May 7, 1973 age 34 2007 heart attack stent put in place, 2012 paralysed from surgery still living

So much for a sport espousing a healthy lifestyle and fitness to the masses that he had a major hand in creating and shaping.

[smegmore]

djstevec said:

Bit of a tainted legacy IMHO.

Agreed.

To add to the above list: Davy 'Boy' Green, Manchester-born WWF 'wrestler' who died from a massive heart attack attributed to steroid abuse. Why the hell anyone would want to look like a meathead drone is beyond a skinny old gibber like me...

[franki68]

djstevec said:

As the founder of the main professional bodybuilding organisation, he and his brother Ben set the rules and judging criteria the sport is pretty much based on, since the 50's. The complete lack of any drug testing, anti-drug stance (except lip service when required) or even acknowledging that their athletes were taking vast quantities of roids, GH, diuretics, insulin etc etc, whilst encouraging bigger, bigger, bigger in their competitions.

The list of dead athletes or those with serious ongoing health issues keeps growing and this only a selection;

Mike Mentzer died 2001 age 49 heart complications
Ray Mentzer died 2001 age 47 Berger's disease(build-up of cholesterol plaques in the arteries), endocarditis (an infection of the lining of the heart)
Ron Teufel died 2002 age 45 liver failure
Scott Klein died 2003 age 30 kidney failure and heart failure
Sonny Schmidt died 2004 age 51 cancer
Robert Benavente 2004 age 30 massive heart attack
Don Youngblood 2005 age 51 massive heart attack
Eduardo Kawak 2006 age 47 heart attack
Luke Wood 2011 age 35 kidney failure and heart failure
Mohammed Benaziza 1992 age 33 he took an injection of clenbuterol
Ray McNeil 1995 age 29 killed by his wife in an argument (also a pro bodybuilder)
Andreas Münzer 1996 age 31 liver and then kidneys failed
Art Atwood 2011 age 38 heart attack
Eddie Guerrero, 2005 age 38. acute heart failure due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease (artery wall thickens as a result of the accumulation of fatty materials such as cholesterol)
Dave Draper Feb 22, 2007 age 65 heart surgery from congestive heart failure
Erik Fromm died Feb 04, 2008 age 36 overdosed on fentanyl
Frank Hillebrand died Feb 19, 2011 age 45 heart attack
Steve Michalik, died May 24, 2012 age 63 According to Michalik, he suffered many serious health problems due to his steroid use. It started with him passing blood in his urine; a sign of the multiple liver tumors doctors later discovered. After recovering from these bouts with cancer Michalik suffered a heart attack, followed by a stroke.


Arnold Schwarzenegger tripple heart bypass still living
Don Long kidney failure still living
Tom Prince kidney failure still living
Flex Wheeler kidney transplant in 2003 still living
Ed Corney 1999 suffered a heart attack and 2 strokes still living
Boyer Coe August 11th, had quadruple heart bypass surgery. they discovered Boyer's blood was extremely thick, and three main arteries were almost completely blocked. The doctors performed open heart surgery right then and there he is still living
Danny Padilla survived a heart attack
Mike Martarazzo 39 2004 clogged arteries caused by steroid use(2007 heart attack triple bypass heart surgery) still living
Kris Dim born May 7, 1973 age 34 2007 heart attack stent put in place, 2012 paralysed from surgery still living

So much for a sport espousing a healthy lifestyle and fitness to the masses that he had a major hand in creating and shaping.

I am tempted to print that off and stick it on the gym wall,I don't think there is a lad under 25. Not taking roids in the gym,I am genuinely shocked how widespread it is.

[soad]

Add Nasser El Sonbaty to that list too.

[ArsE92]

smegmore said:

djstevec said:

Bit of a tainted legacy IMHO.

Agreed.

To add to the above list: Davy 'Boy' Smith, Wigan-born WWF 'wrestler' who died from a massive heart attack attributed to steroid abuse. Why the hell anyone would want to look like a meathead drone is beyond a skinny old gibber like me...

EFA. Important details - he's our local hero

[smegmore]

ArsE92 said:

smegmore said:

djstevec said:

Bit of a tainted legacy IMHO.

Agreed.

To add to the above list: Davy 'Boy' Smith, Wigan-born WWF 'wrestler' who died from a massive heart attack attributed to steroid abuse. Why the hell anyone would want to look like a meathead drone is beyond a skinny old gibber like me...

EFA. Important details - he's our local hero

Ah, my apologies, must have had a senior moment there.

I didn't know he was a pie-eater.

[ArsE92]

smegmore said:

ArsE92 said:

smegmore said:

djstevec said:

Bit of a tainted legacy IMHO.

Agreed.

To add to the above list: Davy 'Boy' Smith, Wigan-born WWF 'wrestler' who died from a massive heart attack attributed to steroid abuse. Why the hell anyone would want to look like a meathead drone is beyond a skinny old gibber like me...

EFA. Important details - he's our local hero

Ah, my apologies, must have had a senior moment there.

I didn't know he was a pie-eater.

I didn't until I read the Wiki! He was born in Golborne, which is a couple of miles away from me. It has it's fair share of meat-heads that's for sure.

[AnonSpoilSport]

N88 said:

How so?

You should read Bob Paris' autobiography.

Also, think of all the BS products (mis) sold to gullible trainers et al and think who mastered the art of shipping out st for cash. Some good done, and they helped spark the fitness and weights industry/landscape we now have, but not entirely altruistic, the Weiders.

[eccles]

djstevec said:

N88 said:

djstevec said:

Bit of a tainted legacy IMHO.

How so?

As the founder of the main professional bodybuilding organisation, he and his brother Ben set the rules and judging criteria the sport is pretty much based on, since the 50's. The complete lack of any drug testing, anti-drug stance (except lip service when required) or even acknowledging that their athletes were taking vast quantities of roids, GH, diuretics, insulin etc etc, whilst encouraging bigger, bigger, bigger in their competitions.

The list of dead athletes or those with serious ongoing health issues keeps growing and this only a selection;

Mike Mentzer died 2001 age 49 heart complications
Ray Mentzer died 2001 age 47 Berger's disease(build-up of cholesterol plaques in the arteries), endocarditis (an infection of the lining of the heart)
Ron Teufel died 2002 age 45 liver failure
Scott Klein died 2003 age 30 kidney failure and heart failure
Sonny Schmidt died 2004 age 51 cancer
Robert Benavente 2004 age 30 massive heart attack
Don Youngblood 2005 age 51 massive heart attack
Eduardo Kawak 2006 age 47 heart attack
Luke Wood 2011 age 35 kidney failure and heart failure
Mohammed Benaziza 1992 age 33 he took an injection of clenbuterol
Ray McNeil 1995 age 29 killed by his wife in an argument (also a pro bodybuilder)
Andreas Münzer 1996 age 31 liver and then kidneys failed
Art Atwood 2011 age 38 heart attack
Eddie Guerrero, 2005 age 38. acute heart failure due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease (artery wall thickens as a result of the accumulation of fatty materials such as cholesterol)
Dave Draper Feb 22, 2007 age 65 heart surgery from congestive heart failure
Erik Fromm died Feb 04, 2008 age 36 overdosed on fentanyl
Frank Hillebrand died Feb 19, 2011 age 45 heart attack
Steve Michalik, died May 24, 2012 age 63 According to Michalik, he suffered many serious health problems due to his steroid use. It started with him passing blood in his urine; a sign of the multiple liver tumors doctors later discovered. After recovering from these bouts with cancer Michalik suffered a heart attack, followed by a stroke.


Arnold Schwarzenegger tripple heart bypass still living
Don Long kidney failure still living
Tom Prince kidney failure still living
Flex Wheeler kidney transplant in 2003 still living
Ed Corney 1999 suffered a heart attack and 2 strokes still living
Boyer Coe August 11th, had quadruple heart bypass surgery. they discovered Boyer's blood was extremely thick, and three main arteries were almost completely blocked. The doctors performed open heart surgery right then and there he is still living
Danny Padilla survived a heart attack
Mike Martarazzo 39 2004 clogged arteries caused by steroid use(2007 heart attack triple bypass heart surgery) still living
Kris Dim born May 7, 1973 age 34 2007 heart attack stent put in place, 2012 paralysed from surgery still living

So much for a sport espousing a healthy lifestyle and fitness to the masses that he had a major hand in creating and shaping.

Add to that list Paul Grant.

[AnonSpoilSport]

soad said:

Add Nasser El Sonbaty to that list too.

Nah, but he was murdered!






See t'other thread.

[Driller]

Jon Pall Sigmarsson?

[AnonSpoilSport]

I was playing Top Trumps with my brother yesterday, the category was "Who killed most..."

I drew Ronald McDonald...



.... then he got Joe Weider, doh!