Income tax above 100%..
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williamp

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20,215 posts

299 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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..in France


More than 8,000 French households’ tax bills topped 100 per cent of their income last year, the business newspaper Les Echos reported this weekend, citing Finance Ministry data.

The exceptionally high level of taxation was due to a one-off levy last year on 2011 incomes for households with assets of more than €1.3m (£1.01m).

President Francois Hollande’s socialist government imposed the tax surcharge last year, shortly after taking office, to offset the impact of a rebate scheme created by its conservative predecessor to cap an individual’s overall taxation at 50 per cent of income.

Les Echos reported that nearly 12,000 households paid taxes last year worth more than 75 per cent of their 2011 revenues due to the exceptional levy.

RSoovy4

35,829 posts

297 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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That's socialism for you.

Thieves.



0000

13,816 posts

217 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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They're overdue a revolution. It wouldn't take much for the left to try similar here in a few years.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

230 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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williamp said:
The exceptionally high level of taxation was due to a one-off levy last year on 2011 incomes for households with assets of more than €1.3m (£1.01m).
That's not "Income tax above 100%" then is it? It's a property tax, which is related to assets not income. Misleading thread title.

PS - It's possible to get a total tax bill exceeding your income in the UK too, if you're going to count things like Stamp Duty.

Adrian W

15,215 posts

254 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Right or wrong, at least they had the balls to do it, not like our lot, who keep saying "but its within the rules"

chrisw666

22,655 posts

225 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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The very prospect of such a move has got Ed Milliband so excited he may explode before the next election.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Jesus. That is so depressing.

What makes me sick about this kind of thing is that governments touting for votes using certain groups as victims to win them.
If you have earned money under a given set of tax laws then you should be protected from retrospective tax rapings on that money. That seems like common sense to me.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Adrian W said:
Right or wrong, at least they had the balls to do it, not like our lot, who keep saying "but its within the rules"
Are you talking about the google/starbucks thing here? Is there a relevance?

Adrian W

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254 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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blindswelledrat said:
Adrian W said:
Right or wrong, at least they had the balls to do it, not like our lot, who keep saying "but its within the rules"
Are you talking about the google/starbucks thing here? Is there a relevance?
The relevance being, they felt there was a tax issue, so they fixed it

Grenoble

58,537 posts

181 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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0000 said:
They're overdue a revolution. It wouldn't take much for the left to try similar here in a few years.
France. No monarchy but a president and lots of palaces.

Oh, and most elected from a narrow elite who attended the same schools. Hmm...

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

258 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Adrian W said:
blindswelledrat said:
Adrian W said:
Right or wrong, at least they had the balls to do it, not like our lot, who keep saying "but its within the rules"
Are you talking about the google/starbucks thing here? Is there a relevance?
The relevance being, they felt there was a tax issue, so they fixed it
I see.
Completely off topic but I see the UK Govt had 2 choices:

1) Close the 'loophole' which allowed them to do this, simultaneously putting off (hundreds of?)billions of pounds of genuine foreign investment for who the law was designed or

2) Leak the matter to the tabloids and let public fury solve the problem,

I'm willing to bet that starbucks and google will pay an awful lot more tax next year for minimum upheaval

Dixie68

3,091 posts

213 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Still, at least it's good to see Socialism working so well...

French economy returns to recession

eccles

14,279 posts

248 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Dixie68 said:
Still, at least it's good to see Socialism working so well...

French economy returns to recession
Whilst ours grows in leaps and bounds!

MrBrightSi

2,926 posts

196 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Welcome to France. Please do not succeed.

Just makes me laugh that a country can spite those who have made something out of themselves. I mean yeah, fine, the hereditary rich i have no feelings about, but those who have amassed their wealth through balls and cunning better than mine deserve a bit of a break.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

218 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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MrBrightSi said:
Welcome to France. Please do not succeed.

Just makes me laugh that a country can spite those who have made something out of themselves. I mean yeah, fine, the hereditary rich i have no feelings about, but those who have amassed their wealth through balls and cunning better than mine deserve a bit of a break.
Why do you have no feelings about the hereditary rich, out of interest?

Why would someone spend their entire lives working, get rich as a result and then have to hand it all to the government at the end? confused

Dixie68

3,091 posts

213 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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eccles said:
Dixie68 said:
Still, at least it's good to see Socialism working so well...

French economy returns to recession
Whilst ours grows in leaps and bounds!
Seems to be doing better than theirs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/may/13/uk-...

Adrian W

15,215 posts

254 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Dixie68 said:
eccles said:
Dixie68 said:
Still, at least it's good to see Socialism working so well...

French economy returns to recession
Whilst ours grows in leaps and bounds!
Seems to be doing better than theirs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/may/13/uk-...
And they manage to provide a decent state pension

Jasandjules

72,162 posts

255 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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0000 said:
They're overdue a revolution. It wouldn't take much for the left to try similar here in a few years.
Fingers crossed.

anonymous-user

80 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Adrian W said:
Dixie68 said:
eccles said:
Dixie68 said:
Still, at least it's good to see Socialism working so well...

French economy returns to recession
Whilst ours grows in leaps and bounds!
Seems to be doing better than theirs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/may/13/uk-...
And they manage to provide a decent state pension
Not for long they won't.


mattnunn

14,041 posts

187 months

Monday 20th May 2013
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Robin Hood does it he's hailed a cult hero and worshipped through the ages.

French Prime Minister does it and he's called a .

Seems like one rule for a partly mythical figure charachter of lore and one rule for the rest of us...