15 months jail for Stuart Hall

[Blackpuddin]

Anybody else think that the mitigation line put forward by Hall's barrister Crispin Aylett that the former broadcaster had "all of 13" victims compared to Jimmy Savile's 1,300 was perhaps not the best defence?

[B17NNS]

Let's hope he soon experiences what it's like to sexually violated at his new home.

Only 13 times though, cause that's alright.

[Blackpuddin]

I do sometimes wonder what planet barristers come from.

[10 Pence Short]

Blackpuddin said:

I do sometimes wonder what planet barristers come from.

One where they're duty bound to act in their clients' best interests, and to remind the court that it's Stuart Hall being sentenced, not Stuart Hall and the legacy of Saville.

[longblackcoat]

10 Pence Short said:

Blackpuddin said:

I do sometimes wonder what planet barristers come from.

One where they're duty bound to act in their clients' best interests, and to remind the court that it's Stuart Hall being sentenced, not Stuart Hall and the legacy of Saville.

If the best mitigation you can offer is "my client's a nasty piece of work, sure, just not as much of a total bd as Jimmy Savile" then perhaps silence would have been a better option.

[Blackpuddin]

10 Pence Short said:

Blackpuddin said:

I do sometimes wonder what planet barristers come from.

One where they're duty bound to act in their clients' best interests, and to remind the court that it's Stuart Hall being sentenced, not Stuart Hall and the legacy of Saville.

Of course I understand their duty of care but comparing a client to another wrongdoer in the hope of getting a lower tariff is surely the action of a madman? Maybe I'm the mad one. I just don't know any more.

[sugerbear]

Maybe the defenses line of thinking is that JS committed 1300 offences and never went to prison. So because Stuart Hall only committed 13 offences he also shouldn't go to prison.

And look... A WOOKIE !!

[Mr_B]

Blackpuddin said:

10 Pence Short said:

Blackpuddin said:

I do sometimes wonder what planet barristers come from.

One where they're duty bound to act in their clients' best interests, and to remind the court that it's Stuart Hall being sentenced, not Stuart Hall and the legacy of Saville.

Of course I understand their duty of care but comparing a client to another wrongdoer in the hope of getting a lower tariff is surely the action of a madman? Maybe I'm the mad one. I just don't know any more.

It's a fine line. But they will point out they are not trying for a lower sentence ( in reality they are because its good for business ) , but in this case he should not get a higher sentence than normal for being associated with Jimmy/ BBC scandal, it being judged free from any desiree to been seen to be making amends because he is/was a celeb, rather than if a nobody was up on the exact same charge.

[Shaw Tarse]

Twitter says Breaking National News: Attorney General to consider if Stuart Hall's 15-month jail sentence "too lenient", reports say.

[voyds9]

At 83, 15 months could be a life sentence.

[hornetrider]

sugerbear said:

And look... A WOOKIE !!

[TTwiggy]

voyds9 said:

At 83, 15 months could be a life sentence.

Unless he's very quickly moved to an 'open' style prison, I imagine you are right.

[Mr_B]

TTwiggy said:

voyds9 said:

At 83, 15 months could be a life sentence.

Unless he's very quickly moved to an 'open' style prison, I imagine you are right.

And then out in 4 months.

[Blackpuddin]

I understand he transferred ownership of his house to his wife in Feb this year (before he pleaded guilty), on health grounds. Compo lawyers are allegedly trying to get that transfer nullified. I expect Brenda might want her OBE back too.

[Mikeyplum]

Mr_B said:

And then out in 4 months.

The Law Pages:

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Likely release date - 17/01/2014

So six months then.

Mitigation:

Good character
Early Plea
Remorse
Character References/Witnesses. [/i]

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The early plea was somewhat discredited due to him initally denying the allegations in a public statement.

Edited by Mikeyplum on Monday 17th June 16:29

[scenario8]

He's going to be released in 2012? Is he the new Doctor Who or something?

[eldar]

Mikeyplum said:

The Law Pages:

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Likely release date - 17/01/2012

So six months then.

Mitigation:

Good character
Early Plea
Remorse
Character References/Witnesses. [/i]

---

The early plea was somewhat discredited due to him initally denying the allegations in a public statement.

And you trust those figures? Release 2012?

Out on a tag in 4 months, 4 months on that. Much as Huhne, I suspect.

[Mikeyplum]

eldar said:

Mikeyplum said:

The Law Pages:

---

Likely release date - 17/01/2012

So six months then.

Mitigation:

Good character
Early Plea
Remorse
Character References/Witnesses. [/i]

---

The early plea was somewhat discredited due to him initally denying the allegations in a public statement.

And you trust those figures? Release 2012?

Out on a tag in 4 months, 4 months on that. Much as Huhne, I suspect.

Oh st!

Amended! Should have said 2014

[Mojocvh]

saaby93 said:

Anyone seen this report
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22386373
Very friendly, hands all over you, had the medical room, ladies washroom next door and many visiting for presumably more than coffee for the night.
It was a different world 45 years ago
Wasnt it?

Not for indecently assaulting a 9 yrs old it wasn't.

In some ways he's lucky. If that had got out at the time [yes, another thread] he'd have been lucky to get away with the kicking of his life.

[otolith]

longblackcoat said:

If the best mitigation you can offer is "my client's a nasty piece of work, sure, just not as much of a total bd as Jimmy Savile" then perhaps silence would have been a better option.

File with Bridger's "at least I only murdered one child" gambit in the annals of weak mitigation.