Clarkson - value for money?
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Slickhillsy

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1,773 posts

172 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/celebritynews/3m-je...

His is a bit Marmite, I for one like and think his writing is very good. Not just motoring / BBC, his Times article and the piece's on best Brit and WW2 heroes are very well written...

Recommend - Buy! smile

Buster73

5,618 posts

182 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Slickhillsy said:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/celebritynews/3m-je...

His is a bit Marmite, I for one like and think his writing is very good. Not just motoring / BBC, his Times article and the piece's on best Brit and WW2 heroes are very well written...

Recommend - Buy! smile
Thanks for the recommendation Jeremy .

doozy

60 posts

188 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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I stopped reading his articles after I logged on to the Times website to read his ‘review’ of the Panamera when it first came out. Three pages of ranting about Porsche design and not a damn thing about the car itself. I don’t think has any credibility as a real motoring journalist.

Crimp a Length!

5,697 posts

252 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Poor motoring journalist IMO, too biased towards certain cars.
I do like his non PC'ness though.
Top Gear though has run its cause in the present format and it is quite obvious that they have run out of ideas based on the last 2 episodes

bebee

4,724 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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He's great, the Johnny Rotten of motoring journos, say's what he thinks, often funny, after all, you don't have to watch him on TV, it's not like it's the 70's and only three channels to choose from, likewise you don't have to read what he writes, there's always Quintin to read, and fifth gear to watch.

When TG ends in the current format, I'll miss it, that is after 10 years of repeats.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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doozy said:
I stopped reading his articles after I logged on to the Times website to read his ‘review’ of the Panamera when it first came out. Three pages of ranting about Porsche design and not a damn thing about the car itself. I don’t think has any credibility as a real motoring journalist.
All his reviews are like that. 90% an unconnected anecdote followed by a couple of paragraphs about the car.

Maybe he just doesn't know what to say about the cars?

Osito

56 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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REALIST123 said:
All his reviews are like that. 90% an unconnected anecdote followed by a couple of paragraphs about the car.

Maybe he just doesn't know what to say about the cars?
Ah, you should read his article about what it takes to be a [motoring] journalist ;-)

Tom911

692 posts

192 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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he seems to have formed a hatred for Porsche, but saying that he's just bought a 981 cayman

911mick

202 posts

160 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Personally think he's a total bell. As a "motoring journalist", how can he constantly criticise and slate Porsche, when they are and have been at the forefront of motoring expertise for 50 years! His personal hatred of all things Porsche should be kept to himself.
As for value for money, absolutely no way should he be paid that sort of money, but as usual the BBC see fit to waste our money on people who are completely biased.
I know he has a huge following but sorry I ain't one of em.

DJCeeJay

18 posts

172 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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IMO Clarkson is an entertainer who focuses on cars, just like top gear is entertainment show first then car show. For that, I like watching or reading him. As a car journalist, I would not use his writing to choose my cars ...

voyds9

8,490 posts

312 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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They may pay him £3mil but what does he raise by selling Top Gear worldwide.

Streps

2,457 posts

195 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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I find his old car reviews much more interesting.
Same with his old motorworld program.

He is more like a caricature of himself these days.
Still enjoyable now and again.

Dick Dastardly

8,326 posts

292 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Good for him. £3m to drive exotica all day, hang out with his mates and travel the world. As far as I'm concerned, he's the cleverest bloke alive.

Though I agree that his old car reviews from 10+ years ago had more merit and I reckon they were also more entertaining.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

243 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Talking about Clarkson's earnings is a bit of a red herring though - the bulk of it isn't salary as such but a cut of the huge revenue that the beeb gets from pedalling the show overseas. Not the same as Graham Norton being given a fortune to sit in a chair and irritate anyone who inadvertently tunes in...

To answer the original question - yes he is value for money. He is only getting a cut of the cash that the corporation makes out of him - it doesn't actually matter if any given viewer likes him or not. He clearly knows this, which is why he gets away with pretty much anything this side of murder...

camshafted

938 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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911mick said:
Personally think he's a total bell. As a "motoring journalist", how can he constantly criticise and slate Porsche, when they are and have been at the forefront of motoring expertise for 50 years! His personal hatred of all things Porsche should be kept to himself.
As for value for money, absolutely no way should he be paid that sort of money, but as usual the BBC see fit to waste our money on people who are completely biased.
I know he has a huge following but sorry I ain't one of em.
You'll probably find he's outstanding value for money. Top Gear is his baby, the success is 99% down to his presenting and personality. It's also the most commercially successful of all the BBC shows as far as I know and BBC Worldwide makes a mint by licensing it.

BTW I'm pretty bored of TG but it remains hugely popular across the globe.


Du1point8

22,898 posts

221 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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I read somewhere that JC made £14 million last year, made up of:

£8.4million for his 30 per cent stake in Bedder 6
£4.86million dividend payment from the firm related to the profits from the worldwide success of Top Gear.
Under £1million for his presenting fee.

Because the BBC bought him out they increased his salary, BBC and BBC worldwide now own 100% of the company.

However in the 5 years Bedder 6 has been running, its profits have grown 5 fold to an annual revenue of £149million.

I think you could safely say JC has paid back more than he will ever earn as a salary, so for him to now earn £3million a year is very good value for money.

Jasandjules

72,601 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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How much does Top Gear make the BBC each year?

Du1point8

22,898 posts

221 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Jasandjules said:
How much does Top Gear make the BBC each year?
Pre tax profits last year were something like 15-16 million if memory serves me correct.

Derek Smith

49,799 posts

277 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Top Gear is a remarkable success story. How many other programs, other than chav-fare, can you think of which generates the sort of viewing figures worldwide that Top Gear does. His writing style has been copied by many others, even those who disparage him. Whilst the excessive hyperbole and silly similes might seem hackneyed now, rather like Shakespeare, it has become familiar in the mouth and so seems to lack originality, even when said by the originator.

He is writing phenomenon. As pointed out he writes for the Sunday Times, and how many other motoring hacks can you think of who are known by those who cycle or walk everywhere.

The style of his television programmes have been copied by others around the globe. When you consider the production values pre-Jeremy Clarkson then you have to say he has brought his program into the modern world. Oddly enough, I was talking about Clarkson this morning and was told that: 'did you know Mike Smith, the TV presenter, flies the helicopters which film his drives a cross-country'. And this from someone who has absolutely no interest in motoring matters whatsoever.

Whilst I didn't, I doubt if Smith flies them all.

I do a bit of writing and I have to say that he impresses me. His output is prodigious and I've never come across a poorly written article.

Love him or loathe him, he is a remarkable success story, known around the world for his Top Gear. But you'd have to be quite thick to believe what he says about a car. That's not what he's on about.

Du1point8

22,898 posts

221 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Derek Smith said:
Top Gear is a remarkable success story. How many other programs, other than chav-fare, can you think of which generates the sort of viewing figures worldwide that Top Gear does. His writing style has been copied by many others, even those who disparage him. Whilst the excessive hyperbole and silly similes might seem hackneyed now, rather like Shakespeare, it has become familiar in the mouth and so seems to lack originality, even when said by the originator.

He is writing phenomenon. As pointed out he writes for the Sunday Times, and how many other motoring hacks can you think of who are known by those who cycle or walk everywhere.

The style of his television programmes have been copied by others around the globe. When you consider the production values pre-Jeremy Clarkson then you have to say he has brought his program into the modern world. Oddly enough, I was talking about Clarkson this morning and was told that: 'did you know Mike Smith, the TV presenter, flies the helicopters which film his drives a cross-country'. And this from someone who has absolutely no interest in motoring matters whatsoever.

Whilst I didn't, I doubt if Smith flies them all.

I do a bit of writing and I have to say that he impresses me. His output is prodigious and I've never come across a poorly written article.

Love him or loathe him, he is a remarkable success story, known around the world for his Top Gear. But you'd have to be quite thick to believe what he says about a car. That's not what he's on about.
Absolutely... some of his actual books aint too bad either.

I actually like his documentaries:

Jeremy Clarkson: Greatest Raid of All Time... wrote and presented.
The Victoria Cross: For Valour
Also one about Brunel.

All excellent, showing he is actually bloody talented.