Labour how can you vote for them?
Labour how can you vote for them?
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911Gary

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4,162 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Just interested to hear how ANYBODY can vote for Millipede and Balls,what are people thinking? I am genuinely interested bearing in mind the last 3 labour governments performance as to how we would vote them back in? Surely they must be now to anyone with genuine political thrust unelectable?
They are to me the most cretinous pair of idiots ever rolled on stage as candidates.Balls is beyond description,Millband is just muppetlike a joke on the world stage.

anonymous-user

75 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Between 1997 and 2005 I considered voting Labour, as Blair seemed like a genuine moderniser, almost a best of both worlds. Though part of the issue was undoubtedly that the Tories were in a complete mess at the time.

My opinion changed when they started solving problems in the NHS and Education by simply saying we are going to spend an extra £xx billion, which we all know doesn't work. That and the warmongering.

As for the current lot, they are, in my view, unelectable.

bad company

21,242 posts

287 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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I could not vote for the current Labour party but plenty will and they have a very good chance of winning IMO.

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

204 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Why not look at the thread you started on the same subject?

911Gary

Original Poster:

4,162 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Inkyfingers said:
Between 1997 and 2005 I considered voting Labour, as Blair seemed like a genuine moderniser, almost a best of both worlds. Though part of the issue was undoubtedly that the Tories were in a complete mess at the time.

My opinion changed when they started solving problems in the NHS and Education by simply saying we are going to spend an extra £xx billion, which we all know doesn't work. That and the warmongering.

As for the current lot, they are, in my view, unelectable.
I do agree, imagine Millipede presiding over another Iraq,also not a fan of Cameron he's almost a Tory Blair clone,so many political decisions now spin orientated never on good old gut feeling.

911Gary

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4,162 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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longblackcoat said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Why not look at the thread you started on the same subject?
Erm because it was October 13?
I had forgot about that though!

Do you my friend stand by your quoted reply
"Me? Almost certainly voting Labour."

hornetrider

63,161 posts

226 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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911Gary said:
Erm because it was October 13?
I had forgot about that though!
That makes this thread an epic repost hehe

911Gary

Original Poster:

4,162 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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hornetrider said:
That makes this thread an epic repost hehe
I still like this though and stand by it LOL

"I am ever curious as to the mind set of the people on the populous polls ie 42% who say they would vote labour,I mean to start Ed Balls? Someone in the thick of the last financial crisis a compulsive liar and spin merchant and Ed Miliband clearly no world statesman with no finacial understanding or coherent policy of his own (I'm being polite).
We are then supposed to forget the absolute financial disaster caused by Gordon Brown and Blair,ruining everything selling all our gold,destroying thousands of viable family small bushinesses and killing the high streets across the country.
Whilst allowing a flood of eastern European immigration to infest our country and take millions of jobs,almost broke us, they did worse even than the PIGS and yet vote them back in again who could do that? They should be ashamed Ed Balls is not viable as a politician Labour are not viable as a government.If they are elected it will be the end."

GT03ROB

13,953 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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hornetrider said:
911Gary said:
Erm because it was October 13?
I had forgot about that though!
That makes this thread an epic repost hehe
Or epic stalking to go find the previous one!!

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Bizarrely people vote for the labour party for exactly the same reason they vote for the tory party


To keep the other lot out

911Gary

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4,162 posts

222 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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GT03ROB said:
Or epic stalking to go find the previous one!!
Some one asked him this ( LBC) I haven't read through but don't think he answered?
From "andymadmak"

"Can you explain why?

I could understand abstaining, spoiling a ballot paper or a vote for the monster raving loony party as some sort of protest. But labour? Really? Have you forgiven them already for the utter chaos they have brought upon our society? Does their economic incompetence really not worry you? Do you agree with mass, uncontrolled immigration as a policy?
I'm not trying to wind you up. I am genuinely curious how you (and millions of others)could ignore what they have done?

Ok, I get that for many it's a question of being a client of the state, and as such you'd support the state that most rewards you, but I somehow don't think you're exactly in that group LBC. "

(app for typos bit busy.)


Edited by 911Gary on Monday 2nd February 09:53

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

204 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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GT03ROB said:
hornetrider said:
911Gary said:
Erm because it was October 13?
I had forgot about that though!
That makes this thread an epic repost hehe
Or epic stalking to go find the previous one!!
No, I remembered it for the sheer idiocy of many of the responses.

Puggit

49,388 posts

269 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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People vote Labour because they are the party that pay out the most. The Labour voters don't care where the money comes from or if there's enough of it. It will probably come from people with more money than them.

Labour buy their voters. Tories buy their financial support.

Morningside

24,143 posts

250 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
Bizarrely people vote for the labour party for exactly the same reason they vote for the tory party


To keep the other lot out
That seems to be the way of modern politics.

TankRizzo

7,876 posts

214 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Asking a Labour supporter why they vote the way they do normally involves the conversation turning to "the Tories" within the first minute. Their entire premise this for the election seems to be "we're not the Tories".

Cyder

7,175 posts

241 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Because the northerners lefties still think it's the 1980's and Maggie will steal their milk and close their pits if they vote for the blue ties.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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TankRizzo said:
Asking a Labour supporter why they vote the way they do normally involves the conversation turning to "the Tories" within the first minute. Their entire premise this for the election seems to be "we're not the Tories".
Asking a Labourtory supporter why they vote the way they do normally involves the conversation turning to "the Tories" Gordon brown within the first minute. Their entire premise this for the election seems to be "we're not the Tories labour".

DSLiverpool

15,940 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Generally if you pay INTO the pot you vote anything but Labour, if you take out of the pot you vote labour. The Sun supporting the Tories caused chaos in many benefit households.

GT03ROB

13,953 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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longblackcoat said:
GT03ROB said:
hornetrider said:
911Gary said:
Erm because it was October 13?
I had forgot about that though!
That makes this thread an epic repost hehe
Or epic stalking to go find the previous one!!
No, I remembered it for the sheer idiocy of many of the responses.
One idiotic post just merges into another these days. But to answer the question.......

Its fairly obvious. We have large swathes of the country who are pretty much dependent on the state, either as employees or as claimants. If you were one of these who would you vote for? Somebody who promised to spend money on the state/you, or somebody who said the they would try to limit spending on the state/you.



Bluebarge

4,519 posts

199 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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What the blue blazes is "genuine political thrust"??

Reasons floating voters may vote Labour:
1. Concern that Tories taking us out of the EU would lead to greater economic pain than any ham-fisted Labour Chancellor could ever manage;
2. Concern that the £9bn of intended but un-budgetted tax cuts could lead to major damage to important public services such as defence and the police;
3. A feeling that large corporations and the wealthy should be taking a greater share of the tax burden rather than just bashing the middle classes;
4. Concern that the Tories aren't doing enough to encourage house-building and help firts-time buyers/renters;
5. Concern that the Tories' chronic unpopularity in Scotland will make Scottish independence inevitable.

See? it's not hard to think of important reasons why the Tories may be a hard choice for some, without even thinking of your own pocket. It could even be seen as a business-friendly vote, given the Tories Achilles heel on Europe.