Would this now be murder?

[gruffalo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-3303...

Interested if the people who did this to this man will now get put on trial for murder?

Assuming his death is a direct result of the attack of course.

[The Nur]

Why the winking smiley?

[gruffalo]

I have know idea, most certainly not intentional.

Mods can you remove please as it is not appropriate?

[Beati Dogu]

There used to be a stipulation that if the victim lived a year and a day after the attack, it wasn't murder.

I think that was removed a few years ago.

[Vaud]

gruffalo said:

I have know idea, most certainly not intentional.

Mods can you remove please as it is not appropriate?

Mods don't watch every topic. You need to click "report" next to your post and ask for the change.

[BlackLabel]

Here is a similar case from 2011 where they did go back and charge someone, who was previously convicted of gbh and jailed for it, with murder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he...

[anonymous-user]

Assuming it's the same as over here (there may be differences), the is no time limit for a murder prosecution. A 'year and a day' was abolished in 1996. If it's more than 3 years between the event and the death, then there's needs to be permission from the Attorney General to prosecute. The same permission is needed if the offenders have been convicted of a lesser offence.

[Du1point8]

Wow... I always thought that once you were charged for a crime, then it was over and done with, think they called it double jeopardy at the time.


Edit to say that I notice this has been abolished in 2005 and you can now be tried multiple times.

[muffinmenace]

Du1point8 said:

Wow... I always thought that once you were charged for a crime, then it was over and done with, think they called it double jeopardy at the time.

That's the same crime with the same evidence isn't it? This would be a different crime with new err evidence.

[chengy]

Beati Dogu said:

There used to be a stipulation that if the victim lived a year and a day after the attack, it wasn't murder.

I think that was removed a few years ago.

Yup, changed in 1996 under the Law Reform (Year and a Day Rule) Act 1996 due to people being able to live a lot longer now with the assistance of life support.

[BlackLabel]

A similar case here perhaps. Poor family!

mail said:

A grieving father whose young daughter died on Saturday nine years after a horror road smash left her with catastrophic injuries is demanding the 'scum' motorist responsible now faces a fresh charge of manslaughter.

Cerys Edwards passed away surrounded by her family at Birmingham Children's Hospital on Saturday just weeks before her tenth birthday.

She was left brain damaged and paralysed when a 4x4 driven by Antonio Boparan - the 19-year-old son of a multimillionaire - smashed into her parents' car when he was trying to overtake another vehicle while travelling on the wrong side of the road at 72mph in a 30mph zone.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3280592/Gi...
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[Halb]

BlackLabel said:

A similar case here perhaps. Poor family!

mail said:

A grieving father whose young daughter died on Saturday nine years after a horror road smash left her with catastrophic injuries is demanding the 'scum' motorist responsible now faces a fresh charge of manslaughter.

Cerys Edwards passed away surrounded by her family at Birmingham Children's Hospital on Saturday just weeks before her tenth birthday.

She was left brain damaged and paralysed when a 4x4 driven by Antonio Boparan - the 19-year-old son of a multimillionaire - smashed into her parents' car when he was trying to overtake another vehicle while travelling on the wrong side of the road at 72mph in a 30mph zone.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3280592/Gi...
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Jesus, I hope the father gets what he considers justice in this matter.

[BlackLabel]

The CPS are going to review the Boparan crash case.

telegraph said:

A multimillionaire's son who left a baby girl paralysed and brain damaged following a horror car crash could be facing fresh charges after a post-mortem revealed he was responsible for causing her death.

Antonio Boparan-Singh, 28, left Cerys Edwards with devastating injuries after he ploughed his Range Rover Sport into the family's Jeep while overtaking at 70mph in a 30mph zone.

Cerys, who had just celebrated her first birthday, was thrown from her baby seat and broke her spine in the crash, leaving her paralysed.

She was unable to speak and required round-the-clock care and was permanently dependent on a ventilator following the crash in November 2006.

telegraph said:

Yesterday, West Midlands Police revealed it handed a file to the CPS confirming the little girl died as a direct result of injuries caused by Boparan.

A spokeswoman for the force said: "The post mortem has concluded that Cerys died as a result of the collision. We are now consulting with CPS."

The CPS confirmed the case will now be reviewed by a specialist prosecutor.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/12196056/Millionaires-son-who-left-baby-brain-damaged-could-face-charges-over-her-death-ten-years-later.html

[TheGroover]

From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3280592/Gi...

"Boparan was jailed again earlier this year for his involvement in a Birmingham bar fight, which left one man blind.

He pleaded guilty to violent disorder and assault in the VIP room of Brindleyplace's Nuvo Bar last April.

He was jailed for 12 months for his involvement in the fight, in which he threw the victim to the floor and kicked him in the head."

He's quite the asset to society isn't he?

[Pennyroyal Tea]

Is that "TBops" by any chance?

[TheGroover]

Pennyroyal Tea said:

Is that "TBops" by any chance?

It's something called Antonio Boparan. So maybe.

[RemyMartin]

TheGroover said:

From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3280592/Gi...

"Boparan was jailed again earlier this year for his involvement in a Birmingham bar fight, which left one man blind.

He pleaded guilty to violent disorder and assault in the VIP room of Brindleyplace's Nuvo Bar last April.

He was jailed for 12 months for his involvement in the fight, in which he threw the victim to the floor and kicked him in the head."

He's quite the asset to society isn't he?

I can't type what I really feel so I'll self moderate myself and call him a . Be nice to see some harm come his way

[Pennyroyal Tea]

TheGroover said:

Pennyroyal Tea said:

Is that "TBops" by any chance?

It's something called Antonio Boparan. So maybe.

I seem to recall either TBops or his brother was a somewhat nefarious type.

[Du1point8]

Pennyroyal Tea said:

TheGroover said:

Pennyroyal Tea said:

Is that "TBops" by any chance?

It's something called Antonio Boparan. So maybe.

I seem to recall either TBops or his brother was a somewhat nefarious type.

Think you are talking about Alexander Surin.

http://jalopnik.com/5525486/drug-kingpins-own-secr...

[Art0ir]

Du1point8 said:

Pennyroyal Tea said:

TheGroover said:

Pennyroyal Tea said:

Is that "TBops" by any chance?

It's something called Antonio Boparan. So maybe.

I seem to recall either TBops or his brother was a somewhat nefarious type.

Think you are talking about Alexander Surin.

http://jalopnik.com/5525486/drug-kingpins-own-secr...

Real name Michael Boparin, non?