The Prime Minister is fantastic !
Discussion
Has anyone ever said this, ever ?
Loads of stuff on FB about David Cameron being a tit, a few years back it was Gordon Brown, then there was "B Liar", going further back, "the Milk Snatcher" and people danced when she died, people who by and large didnt actually live through her tenure, or at least didnt live through it with any political awareness.
Are they all tits, evil, self interested, nepostistic, perverted, warmongering, weak, spineless etc etc ?
I know people will start rattling on about Churchill, again, I didnt live through any of his two terms so cant really comment, he made some tough decisions, some good speeches and led the country through the war but was he so fantastic, or was it through the sacrifices and efforts of the rest of the country and the allies ? he was, by most accounts, bladdered a lot of the time, would he sort the country out now ? was he lauded in his day or is it hindsight ?
Is Cameron really that bad ? or is he doing a decent job of what is a pretty tough gig, every time he has a few days off he gets stick for "sunning himself" because some event happens that he personally couldnt do anything about.
Loads of stuff on FB about David Cameron being a tit, a few years back it was Gordon Brown, then there was "B Liar", going further back, "the Milk Snatcher" and people danced when she died, people who by and large didnt actually live through her tenure, or at least didnt live through it with any political awareness.
Are they all tits, evil, self interested, nepostistic, perverted, warmongering, weak, spineless etc etc ?
I know people will start rattling on about Churchill, again, I didnt live through any of his two terms so cant really comment, he made some tough decisions, some good speeches and led the country through the war but was he so fantastic, or was it through the sacrifices and efforts of the rest of the country and the allies ? he was, by most accounts, bladdered a lot of the time, would he sort the country out now ? was he lauded in his day or is it hindsight ?
Is Cameron really that bad ? or is he doing a decent job of what is a pretty tough gig, every time he has a few days off he gets stick for "sunning himself" because some event happens that he personally couldnt do anything about.
I'd say you'll be hated no matter how hard you try.
It's not an easy job and when you're trying to please a country where the majority haven't even voted for you you're never going to win everyone's hearts!
I'm young and have never really been interested in politics, over the last few years I've shown a mild interest though and the country appears (in my experience, at least) to be getting back on its feet since DC came into power, I'm not saying its solely because of him though.
It's not an easy job and when you're trying to please a country where the majority haven't even voted for you you're never going to win everyone's hearts!
I'm young and have never really been interested in politics, over the last few years I've shown a mild interest though and the country appears (in my experience, at least) to be getting back on its feet since DC came into power, I'm not saying its solely because of him though.
Pesty said:
I distinctly remember people loving thatcher Blair and even brown.
Some parts of the left wing aren't especially picky about who leads them; Thatcher was a bit of a special case though for many reasons. In terms of CMD, he's pretty much everything you'd want if you were making up an identikit Tory PM. Eton/Oxbridge, wealthy, well spoken, oddly puffy looking, and almost unbearably smug.
But I think he's doing quite a good job. It's been said a lot that he's operating more like a chairman than a chief executive - wandering in to meetings and shaking people's hands while the real work is done by other people - but the skill of that has been to get the team underneath him working properly. That he managed to do that successfully with a coalition is really impressive.
Edited by davepoth on Wednesday 11th November 23:04
Hosenbugler said:
Actually, Cameron is a class act, like or loath him. He acts like and comes across a leader.
Hopefully he will be leader enough to take us out of the EU straightjacket.
We will see.
What a leader his judgement has been lacking in very the everything he's done. We won't pay the EU the extra cash oh but we will I'll get concessions oh no I won't he's a toasterHopefully he will be leader enough to take us out of the EU straightjacket.
We will see.
Edited by Hosenbugler on Wednesday 11th November 23:16
Glad you like him.
Pesty said:
Hosenbugler said:
Actually, Cameron is a class act, like or loath him. He acts like and comes across a leader.
Hopefully he will be leader enough to take us out of the EU straightjacket.
We will see.
What a leader his judgement has been lacking in very the everything he's done. We won't pay the EU the extra cash oh but we will I'll get concessions oh no I won't he's a toasterHopefully he will be leader enough to take us out of the EU straightjacket.
We will see.
Edited by Hosenbugler on Wednesday 11th November 23:16
Glad you like him.
Its just convincing the pillock its the right way.
I personally like him, seems to have a real passion for politics. As far as his leadership goes it will be interesting how this whole EU malarky plays out. I can see why people hate him but suppose you cant please everyone, especially when the economy is on its arse. Tough gig.
I actually prefer Osbourne though as leadership material. Will look forward to the next term with him as PM.
Im not Red or Blue, left or right but i look at the shambles the oposing parties are in and cant see anything other than a majority tory win next time round.
I actually prefer Osbourne though as leadership material. Will look forward to the next term with him as PM.
Im not Red or Blue, left or right but i look at the shambles the oposing parties are in and cant see anything other than a majority tory win next time round.
I think it rather goes against the grain of British democracy to heap praise on the powerful. And rightly so. They have a high enough opinion of themselves already, and a party full of sycophants to pour adulation on them at every opportunity.
The public should be sceptical and even suspicious.
Though FWIW I don't hate Cameron. I think he's a dull functionary with a nous for political opportunism. With a better system in place he would be a safe pair of hands to not screw anything up for a few years.
Brown was never capable either as Chancellor or PM.
Blair is fairly uncontroversially the most 'popular' PM of my lifetime who enjoyed a term and a half of honeymoon period with almost no opposition from the press, the public or even the opposition. His premiership was an unmitigated disaster which led us to bankruptcy, war and Gordon Brown.
Major was a bit like Cameron, but blighted by forcing through Maastricht and weighed down by the tired and divided Tory party of the time. I think his term as PM was generally good precisely because he was treated with utter scorn by the press, the public and even his own party.
The public should be sceptical and even suspicious.
Though FWIW I don't hate Cameron. I think he's a dull functionary with a nous for political opportunism. With a better system in place he would be a safe pair of hands to not screw anything up for a few years.
Brown was never capable either as Chancellor or PM.
Blair is fairly uncontroversially the most 'popular' PM of my lifetime who enjoyed a term and a half of honeymoon period with almost no opposition from the press, the public or even the opposition. His premiership was an unmitigated disaster which led us to bankruptcy, war and Gordon Brown.
Major was a bit like Cameron, but blighted by forcing through Maastricht and weighed down by the tired and divided Tory party of the time. I think his term as PM was generally good precisely because he was treated with utter scorn by the press, the public and even his own party.
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