Poundland doomed?
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55palfers

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6,380 posts

194 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Seems the South African owner of our favorite store(s) are in the mire!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-5...


anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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IIRC it was only July 2016 that steinhoff bought Poundland for nearly £600m

That, after being beaten by Sainsbury to buy home retail group and pulling out of doing a deal to buy Darty in France

williamp

20,433 posts

303 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Well weve not had a high street chsin collspse this winter, the first time in quite a few years...

My momey is on superdrug.

essayer

10,410 posts

224 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Doesn’t inflation eventually doom all pound-stores anyway?

Multiyork are the highest profile casualty of this winter IIRC

Yipper

5,964 posts

120 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Poundland itself is in pretty good shape. Its revenue, cashflow and profit look solid.

It is the worldwide parent umbrella company that is struggling. Top execs have been cooking the books and building silly levels of debt.

Superdrug is also in good shape. It is surprisingly profitable and revenues are rising.

https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2017/07/super...

Thankyou4calling

11,011 posts

203 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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williamp said:
Well weve not had a high street chsin collspse this winter, the first time in quite a few years...

My momey is on superdrug.
Toysrus?

voyds9

8,490 posts

313 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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williamp said:
Well weve not had a high street chsin collspse this winter, the first time in quite a few years...

My momey is on superdrug.
Discussing this with wife and we thought perhaps Boots or Debenhams were possibilities



98elise

32,689 posts

191 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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essayer said:
Doesn’t inflation eventually doom all pound-stores anyway?

Multiyork are the highest profile casualty of this winter IIRC
I've always though the concept was seriously flawed.

Having a USP that's eroded by inflation means at some point you have to reinvent the USP, or reduce the portions/sizes/weights.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

226 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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voyds9 said:
williamp said:
Well weve not had a high street chsin collspse this winter, the first time in quite a few years...

My momey is on superdrug.
Discussing this with wife and we thought perhaps Boots or Debenhams were possibilities
Why?

I'd agree on Toys R Us.

voyds9

8,490 posts

313 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Boots mainly from footfall, it always seems quiet whenever I go in.

Debenhams from mail shots, getting at least 2 emails a day promoting offers/discounts. They seem to start a new seasons with offers, a week later we have reductions, then mid reason sale, the another offer before finishing with end of season sales, all seems a little bit desperate.

Thankyou4calling

11,011 posts

203 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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voyds9 said:
Boots mainly from footfall, it always seems quiet whenever I go in.

Debenhams from mail shots, getting at least 2 emails a day promoting offers/discounts. They seem to start a new seasons with offers, a week later we have reductions, then mid reason sale, the another offer before finishing with end of season sales, all seems a little bit desperate.
I think that's what's known as marketing!

With very few exceptions retailers have to throw everything at it now.

Debenhams and Boots will be fine.


essayer

10,410 posts

224 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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I don’t know how Maplin are still going tbh

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

116 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Poundland is trading well. The issue aiui is the South African parent caught in an accounting scandal leading to concerns of the viability of the overall group & when that happens, credit insurers get nervous & when that happens, suppliers start demanding cash upfront & when that happens, the end is in sight.

Had to chuckle at this:



Anyone who's ever dealt with them knows that is literally true but a function of their ineptitude rather than any one supplier beating a path to their door. Bilston, Jesus wept.

PBDirector

1,049 posts

160 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Bit tangential, but can anyone tell me how in the hell French Connection are still trading? What are they selling and to whom? I thought they’d have been a gonner years ago...

PBDirector

1,049 posts

160 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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essayer said:
I don’t know how Maplin are still going tbh
I bought a USB lead from there a couple years ago at about a 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% mark up so it’s probably me that’s kept them afloat.

mattley

3,038 posts

252 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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essayer said:
I don’t know how Maplin are still going tbh
It's not looking good https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/24/credit_in...

jsc15

981 posts

238 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Can't see Poundland failing, the place is always packed and they are expanding to stuff at £2+ now.
Agree with Maplins surviving against all expectations. They clearly have a ready supply of rich electronics hobbyists as customers who don't ever shop online.

Not sure Halfords has the pull factor it used to, and last time I was in one it had twice as many staff as customers.
WH Smith is one that I think will suffer with ongoing decline of print media, as their stationery is overpriced and the main essentials can be had online (or Poundland). I think the airport/station stores would be kept regardless

It's not retail I know but on the High St I think we're going to see more shrinkage in restaurant chains, once people tire of the pricier burger joints like Five Guys & GBK etc now that McD's are upping their game

Yipper

5,964 posts

120 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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jsc15 said:
Can't see Poundland failing, the place is always packed and they are expanding to stuff at £2+ now.
Agree with Maplins surviving against all expectations. They clearly have a ready supply of rich electronics hobbyists as customers who don't ever shop online.

Not sure Halfords has the pull factor it used to, and last time I was in one it had twice as many staff as customers.
WH Smith is one that I think will suffer with ongoing decline of print media, as their stationery is overpriced and the main essentials can be had online (or Poundland). I think the airport/station stores would be kept regardless

It's not retail I know but on the High St I think we're going to see more shrinkage in restaurant chains, once people tire of the pricier burger joints like Five Guys & GBK etc now that McD's are upping their game
Poundland is in good shape. It is the sector's strongest brand.

Maplin is losing cash. It is no longer cheap, its website is terrible, and stores are always understocked or overpriced.

Halfords is growing revenue and in fair shape, due to trendy bikes.

WH Smith is in excellent shape. Its highstreet stores remain profitable and its travel stores (airports) are a gold mine.

Of all those 4 brands, only Maplin looks shaky.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

226 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Aye, WH Smith have been revolutionised in the last 10 years and are going from strength to strength.

Matt p

1,119 posts

238 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Yipper said:
jsc15 said:
Agree with Maplins surviving against all expectations. They clearly have a ready supply of rich electronics hobbyists as customers who don't ever shop online.

Maplin is losing cash. It is no longer cheap, its website is terrible, and stores are always understocked or overpriced.
Just to counter your constant Maplin bashing. I’ve popped into three separate branches over the past few months while working in town. Each time I’ve been greeted by friendly enthusiastic staff who are willing to help and locate parts etc. I’ve left the stores with more or less what I needed to get me out of a spot. Some of the stock is real random shizzle but to a get a chiller back up and running its saved my bacon a few times.

If I can wait till next day I use RS components as it will be exactly what I need but you really do pay through the nose unfortunately.

Now Cromwell tools don’t even get me started on how inept those clowns are. Nothing in stock that advertised on their website and always on back order. Both luton and Rochester let me down. Ended up getting what I needed from Amazon.


Edit to add - god knows what I did regarding to the quote function.