Holocaust memorial - does Britain need one?

[saaby93]

Some arguing about this going in a Westminster park
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47189...
Surely it should be in a country a few hundred miles away?

[Shar2]

No, I don't think we do. I have seen the one in Berlin and while it was thought provoking, it's nothing like actually seeing the camps themselves.

[thebraketester]

Bit of an eyesore.

[Eric Mc]

Why not.

[BlackLabel]

Why not just upgrade the Hyde Park one?

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

Some arguing about this going in a Westminster park
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47189...
Surely it should be in a country a few hundred miles away?

What’s your objection ?

The aesthetics of the proposed monument ?

The location and associated disruption mentioned in the article ?

The idea behind recognising the holocaust in London ?

[saaby93]

Brooking10 said:

The idea behind recognising the holocaust in London ?

was there one??

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

Brooking10 said:

The idea behind recognising the holocaust in London ?

was there one??

Yes yes very clever

Are you going to answer the question properly ?

[saaby93]

Brooking10 said:

saaby93 said:

Brooking10 said:

The idea behind recognising the holocaust in London ?

was there one??

Yes yes very clever

Are you going to answer the question properly ?

It probably did

Let's keep the park looking like a park?
- otherwise over time there could be all sorts of worldly events that might be considered worthwhile to take a space
No disprespect to a memorial in its place.

[Rushjob]

I personally dislike that proposed design. There are already two permanent memorial centres in the UK, one within the Imperial War Museum and the other at the Beth Shalom Holocaust Centre near Laxton in North Notts where people can visit to learn about what happened (as well as the actual memorial in Hyde Park) both of which are very sobering when you spend time there.

[Police State]

Eric Mc said:

Why not.

We have enough of already in this country.

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

Brooking10 said:

saaby93 said:

Brooking10 said:

The idea behind recognising the holocaust in London ?

was there one??

Yes yes very clever

Are you going to answer the question properly ?

It probably did

Let's keep the park looking like a park?
- otherwise over time there could be all sorts of worldly events that might be considered worthwhile to take a space
No disprespect to a memorial in its place.

So for clarity in your primary view on the issue is we shouldn’t recognise the event because it didn’t happen in the U.K. ?

The issue of location therefore is surely a red herring if that is your underlying perspective ?

[rxe]

Memorials need to be “of a place”, otherwise it just degrades their impact. Put a Holocaust memorial in Berlin, sure, it’s relevant. Less relevant in London. Otherwise you get memorials to every event in history all over the place.

There is also a lot of value in keeping the park as it is - a big green space. I don’t have a problem with a Holocaust memorial in itself, it’s obsession with concreting over every bit of space that grates with me.

[dxg]

It's virtue signalling of a generation that feels a need to emote over every subject going. There are plenty of monuments already. Good to see that the Park itself is against the proposal.

[Eric Mc]

Police State said:

We have enough of already in this country.

In your opinion.

[robemcdonald]

Considering that recently 8% of people in the U.K. thought it had been exaggerated and 5% thought it didn’t happen at all. I would say we definitely need one.

[Murph7355]

rxe said:

... it’s obsession with concreting over every bit of space that grates with me.

Totally agree with this.

Why not plant a few million flowers or something - something that can be kept growing. Pop a little plaque near them noting the significance and job done.

I also tend to agree with the angle on "of a place". There have been lots of pretty heinous acts in the world over the last couple of thousand years. Where do we stop?

[Aphex]

Absolutely not

[Vaud]

If you are ever in Washington DC, I urge you to visit the Holocaust Museum. Very sobering.

[anonymous-user]

Aphex said:

Absolutely not

This kind of thinking intrigues me.

Britain does absolutely not need another holocaust memorial ?

Could you explain why you think that ?

Because we have sufficient or it is not something you believe should be memorialised here ?

Some other reason ?

Genuinely interested in the thinking behind such a statement.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 11th February 09:51