Police detectors to warn mobile phone-using drivers
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As I understand it the system can identify vehicles where a hand held mobile is being used rather than those where a hands free system is in use
It can’t be used for enforcement as it can’t tell if a driver or passenger is using the phone .. merely that a hand held mobile is in use in that vehicle
It’s a bit like those speed signs entering a 30 that flash at you
Maybe it will deter some people .. which has to be a good thing ?
It can’t be used for enforcement as it can’t tell if a driver or passenger is using the phone .. merely that a hand held mobile is in use in that vehicle
It’s a bit like those speed signs entering a 30 that flash at you
Maybe it will deter some people .. which has to be a good thing ?
KingNothing said:
Surely just a permanently illuminated sign would have been a cheaper option, given how often it'll be going off for passengers, and things like streaming music.
pretty much this, at least every other car is using data consuming mapping alone. It'll need a long life bulb.Earthdweller said:
As I understand it the system can identify vehicles where a hand held mobile is being used rather than those where a hands free system is in use
It can’t be used for enforcement as it can’t tell if a driver or passenger is using the phone .. merely that a hand held mobile is in use in that vehicle
It’s a bit like those speed signs entering a 30 that flash at you
Maybe it will deter some people .. which has to be a good thing ?
Don't get me wrong, not against stopping people using phones etc etc, but what about the trackers fitted to my cars, they all use a phone on G networks. It can’t be used for enforcement as it can’t tell if a driver or passenger is using the phone .. merely that a hand held mobile is in use in that vehicle
It’s a bit like those speed signs entering a 30 that flash at you
Maybe it will deter some people .. which has to be a good thing ?
I don't know where any of them are, so if stopped and asked where my phone is I can show them my normal phone but wouldn't have a clue where the other signal is coming from.
Also, I can't see how the kit would know if it is hands-free or not, that has me intrigued.
Earthdweller said:
As I understand it the system can identify vehicles where a hand held mobile is being used rather than those where a hands free system is in use
It can’t be used for enforcement as it can’t tell if a driver or passenger is using the phone .. merely that a hand held mobile is in use in that vehicle
It’s a bit like those speed signs entering a 30 that flash at you
Maybe it will deter some people .. which has to be a good thing ?
Correct and a bit nanny state. How about they have a stab at solving knife crime rather than spurious bullsIt can’t be used for enforcement as it can’t tell if a driver or passenger is using the phone .. merely that a hand held mobile is in use in that vehicle
It’s a bit like those speed signs entering a 30 that flash at you
Maybe it will deter some people .. which has to be a good thing ?
t protocols around drivers. No not really correct. From the BBC it can only detect if a 2G, 3G or4G -connected device is being used. It has no way of knowing if it is hand-held or not.
I see no purpose in such a pointless piece of technology, unless somebody is planning changes to our present laws to make it useful.
I see no purpose in such a pointless piece of technology, unless somebody is planning changes to our present laws to make it useful.
hutchst said:
No not really correct. From the BBC it can only detect if a 2G, 3G or4G -connected device is being used. It has no way of knowing if it is hand-held or not.
I see no purpose in such a pointless piece of technology, unless somebody is planning changes to our present laws to make it useful.
Yes the law will be changed to make travelling in a car with a mobile phone illegal. It's useless and flawed tech. It reminds me of that con man that sold bomb detectors (fake ones) to the government and no-one noticed they didn't work. It's just a random glowing sign. £10k a pop. Oh we'll take 500 pleaseI see no purpose in such a pointless piece of technology, unless somebody is planning changes to our present laws to make it useful.
would be cheaper to have a sign sitting at the road side etc with words
"using a mobile phone while driving £200 and 6 PTS."
rather than having a thing illuminate every time you drive past, 99% of population will have a phone in their car outputting 2g/3g/4g signal.
massive waste of money.
"using a mobile phone while driving £200 and 6 PTS."
rather than having a thing illuminate every time you drive past, 99% of population will have a phone in their car outputting 2g/3g/4g signal.
massive waste of money.
hutchst said:
No not really correct. From the BBC it can only detect if a 2G, 3G or4G -connected device is being used. It has no way of knowing if it is hand-held or not..
It sort of does if you believe the article as it detects whether bluetooth is being used implying not hand held, but only sort of.https://www.westcotec.co.uk/products/mobile-phone-...
website said:
The technology can detect if a driver is using Bluetooth, and will therefore not trigger the warning sign. However, any system finds it hard to differentiate between users in the car, we accept that some activation might be triggered by non-driving occupants. The vast majority of activation’s will relate to drivers, and we don’t see a problem when passengers activate the sign. In fact, it’s all part of the education message that using a phone when driving is not only illegal but very dangerous.
What a load of croc. Edited by drdino on Friday 12th April 08:52
Earthdweller said:
As I understand it the system can identify vehicles where a hand held mobile is being used rather than those where a hands free system is in use
bks, surely ? Data packets to & from the cell tower will be exactly the same hand held or otherwise wont they ? I cant think of a function that would identify itself continuously to the network that the device is being used hands free. Its probably like the old TV detector vans.
Gary C said:
Earthdweller said:
As I understand it the system can identify vehicles where a hand held mobile is being used rather than those where a hands free system is in use
bks, surely ? Data packets to & from the cell tower will be exactly the same hand held or otherwise wont they ? I cant think of a function that would identify itself continuously to the network that the device is being used hands free. Its probably like the old TV detector vans.
Note: not an electronics engineer, and my post is from a position of ignorance.
But, it seems likely...drdino said:
+1. This is just like the TV detector vans of old. It's unbelievable that anyone is gullible enough to fall for this kind of nonsense in 2019.I particularly liked the line "any system finds it hard to differentiate between users in the car, we accept that some activation might be triggered by non-driving occupants. The vast majority of activation’s will relate to drivers,"
Aside from the horrible misuse of apostrophes, that is a wild and completely unsupportable claim. Then again, they also advertise one of their many light-up signs as a "collision avoidance system". Just laughable.
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