William Hill - Good News
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Well, not if you are one of 4000 members of staff but its a small price to pay for the sheer misery these betting shops brings - New Labour should be prosecuted over the deregulation they enabled.
Back on track, over 700 William Hill shops will close as a result of the loss of revenue following the restrictions placed on FOB machines.
Good riddance. Lets hope others have to follow suit and soon.
Back on track, over 700 William Hill shops will close as a result of the loss of revenue following the restrictions placed on FOB machines.
Good riddance. Lets hope others have to follow suit and soon.
It is unfortunate for the affected staff. I know tens of people affected by this change, job losses or significant reduction in hours. A lot of these people are middle aged, or working parents, and they are really in trouble with the general decline in retail type jobs and the more general gig economy. This is through no fault of their own.
The industry has been ruined through greed over decades as they chased the FOBT revenue over traditional sports betting, whilst implementing progressively worse working conditions for the staff. The management and PE firms have generally made out like bandits whilst the staff have been kicked and are now out of the job.
Personally, I think the change is a bit nanny state. I liked playing on the roulette machines occasionally as do the vast majority of people without a problem. You can bet at higher limits at a Casino or online if you are that way inclined, so I’m not sure why the bookies were hit so hard and another sustainable industry decimated?
The industry has been ruined through greed over decades as they chased the FOBT revenue over traditional sports betting, whilst implementing progressively worse working conditions for the staff. The management and PE firms have generally made out like bandits whilst the staff have been kicked and are now out of the job.
Personally, I think the change is a bit nanny state. I liked playing on the roulette machines occasionally as do the vast majority of people without a problem. You can bet at higher limits at a Casino or online if you are that way inclined, so I’m not sure why the bookies were hit so hard and another sustainable industry decimated?
Edited by dmahon on Thursday 4th July 22:19
Edited by dmahon on Thursday 4th July 22:20
Bugger.
I have searched high and low, and I need a much smaller violin.
I do not have one.
They and others thrive on poverty and misery.
I hope the shareholders get a real cold on this.
Edit: There should be a "Ching Ching - are you solvent enough to afford this without driving your family into poverty???"
From someone who was brought up with holes in their shoes, ill fitting clothes, eating bread ( a lot ) for food... due to a parent that spunked their salary on gambling - I hope they just die out.
And every other entity.
Why the f
k are they allowed to advertise when games etc are in play?
And having met a number of folks involved in the design of algorithms of online casino playing etc - I would ban it all.
It is intrinsically designed to get you into debt.
I have searched high and low, and I need a much smaller violin.
I do not have one.
They and others thrive on poverty and misery.
I hope the shareholders get a real cold on this.
Edit: There should be a "Ching Ching - are you solvent enough to afford this without driving your family into poverty???"
From someone who was brought up with holes in their shoes, ill fitting clothes, eating bread ( a lot ) for food... due to a parent that spunked their salary on gambling - I hope they just die out.
And every other entity.
Why the f
k are they allowed to advertise when games etc are in play?And having met a number of folks involved in the design of algorithms of online casino playing etc - I would ban it all.
It is intrinsically designed to get you into debt.
Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 4th July 22:25
dmahon said:
It is unfortunate for the affected staff. I know tens of people affected by this change, job losses or significant reduction in hours. A lot of these people are middle aged, or working parents, and they are really in trouble with the general decline in retail type jobs and the more general gig economy. This is through no fault of their own.
The industry has been ruined through greed over decades as they chased the FOBT revenue over traditional sports betting, whilst implementing progressively worse working conditions for the staff. The management and PE firms have generally made out like bandits whilst the staff have been kicked and are now out of the job.
Personally, I think the change is a bit nanny state. I liked playing on the roulette machines occasionally as do many people I know without a problem. You can bet at higher limits at a Casino or online if you are that way inclined, so I’m not sure why the bookies were hit so hard and another sustainable industry decimated?
Is the issue money laundering, not just problem gambling.The industry has been ruined through greed over decades as they chased the FOBT revenue over traditional sports betting, whilst implementing progressively worse working conditions for the staff. The management and PE firms have generally made out like bandits whilst the staff have been kicked and are now out of the job.
Personally, I think the change is a bit nanny state. I liked playing on the roulette machines occasionally as do many people I know without a problem. You can bet at higher limits at a Casino or online if you are that way inclined, so I’m not sure why the bookies were hit so hard and another sustainable industry decimated?
Edited by dmahon on Thursday 4th July 22:19
eldar said:
dmahon said:
It is unfortunate for the affected staff. I know tens of people affected by this change, job losses or significant reduction in hours. A lot of these people are middle aged, or working parents, and they are really in trouble with the general decline in retail type jobs and the more general gig economy. This is through no fault of their own.
The industry has been ruined through greed over decades as they chased the FOBT revenue over traditional sports betting, whilst implementing progressively worse working conditions for the staff. The management and PE firms have generally made out like bandits whilst the staff have been kicked and are now out of the job.
Personally, I think the change is a bit nanny state. I liked playing on the roulette machines occasionally as do many people I know without a problem. You can bet at higher limits at a Casino or online if you are that way inclined, so I’m not sure why the bookies were hit so hard and another sustainable industry decimated?
Is the issue money laundering, not just problem gambling.The industry has been ruined through greed over decades as they chased the FOBT revenue over traditional sports betting, whilst implementing progressively worse working conditions for the staff. The management and PE firms have generally made out like bandits whilst the staff have been kicked and are now out of the job.
Personally, I think the change is a bit nanny state. I liked playing on the roulette machines occasionally as do many people I know without a problem. You can bet at higher limits at a Casino or online if you are that way inclined, so I’m not sure why the bookies were hit so hard and another sustainable industry decimated?
Edited by dmahon on Thursday 4th July 22:19
Not-The-Messiah said:
Last time I went into my town center all there was were betting shops, charity shops and fast food outlets. There goes the betting shops and the government have their eyes on fast food all that will be left is charity shops soon.
Fortunately people will have lost weight so will need new clothes from the charity shops.....Troubleatmill said:
Why the fk are they allowed to advertise when games etc are in play?
What gets me is that there has been no real desire to tax this - fags, booze, sugar all taxed. k are they allowed to advertise when games etc are in play?Gambling - nothing more than the standard taxes.
Why not charge £2k per advert at least? At a minimum it would be income for the government.
iwantagta said:
What gets me is that there has been no real desire to tax this - fags, booze, sugar all taxed.
Gambling - nothing more than the standard taxes.
Why not charge £2k per advert at least? At a minimum it would be income for the government.
Standard taxes plus General Betting Duty, Pool Betting Duty, or Remote Gaming Duty.!Gambling - nothing more than the standard taxes.
Why not charge £2k per advert at least? At a minimum it would be income for the government.
sas62 said:
iwantagta said:
What gets me is that there has been no real desire to tax this - fags, booze, sugar all taxed.
Gambling - nothing more than the standard taxes.
Why not charge £2k per advert at least? At a minimum it would be income for the government.
Standard taxes plus General Betting Duty, Pool Betting Duty, or Remote Gaming Duty.!Gambling - nothing more than the standard taxes.
Why not charge £2k per advert at least? At a minimum it would be income for the government.
sas62 said:
iwantagta said:
What gets me is that there has been no real desire to tax this - fags, booze, sugar all taxed.
Gambling - nothing more than the standard taxes.
Why not charge £2k per advert at least? At a minimum it would be income for the government.
Standard taxes plus General Betting Duty, Pool Betting Duty, or Remote Gaming Duty.!Gambling - nothing more than the standard taxes.
Why not charge £2k per advert at least? At a minimum it would be income for the government.
Hopefully this is the outlying indicator of things to come for this parasitic industry and it can scale right back to live betting on sports events
The concept of fixed odds machines being higher stakes due to the calculation taking place off site is simply ludicrous and should never have been allowed
The concept of fixed odds machines being higher stakes due to the calculation taking place off site is simply ludicrous and should never have been allowed
I take no pleasure in the loss of jobs, but I do find it ironic that politicians and do gooders feel smug at the banning of tobacco advertising from all sport, and now we see it infested with fking online betting etc.
Betting shops, online betting etc, seems to have become so socially acceptable, and in reality it should not be. There have always been "pro gamblers" and guys who study form and win / lose, it ruins some of them, and they do it full time. BUt I recently heard from a friends daughter who is at uni who says that the most common "job" they have at her halls in "online betting" on football mostly. It saddens me if that is the case, these people really are daft to get involved in it, and even dafter to think it is a suitable "job" to get involved in in what should be some of the most formative time of their lives.
If they are going into adulthood thinking gambling is anything more than a mugs game, I pity the future they have.
I'd petition for the banning of gambling advertising in sport, but fear that a lot of sports would suffer hugely, so rife it is now.
Ive had a flutter, but placed probably 20 bets my whole life and never more than 10 quid.
king online betting etc. Betting shops, online betting etc, seems to have become so socially acceptable, and in reality it should not be. There have always been "pro gamblers" and guys who study form and win / lose, it ruins some of them, and they do it full time. BUt I recently heard from a friends daughter who is at uni who says that the most common "job" they have at her halls in "online betting" on football mostly. It saddens me if that is the case, these people really are daft to get involved in it, and even dafter to think it is a suitable "job" to get involved in in what should be some of the most formative time of their lives.
If they are going into adulthood thinking gambling is anything more than a mugs game, I pity the future they have.
I'd petition for the banning of gambling advertising in sport, but fear that a lot of sports would suffer hugely, so rife it is now.
Ive had a flutter, but placed probably 20 bets my whole life and never more than 10 quid.
Edited by poo at Paul's on Friday 5th July 00:22
Dr Jekyll said:
The arrogant paternalism in this thread is appalling.
'Of course I can make up my own mind but all the rest of you must be protected from yourselves because you can't possibly make your own decisions'.
A lot of people can't though.'Of course I can make up my own mind but all the rest of you must be protected from yourselves because you can't possibly make your own decisions'.
I used to be very much of the Gambling addiction, pah" mentality and then I listened to a few phone-ins on it and heard some of the people.
Bit of an eye-opener.
I don't know how you balance reducing the impact from that kind of thing against job losses incurred doing so.
iphonedyou said:
Dr Jekyll said:
The arrogant paternalism in this thread is appalling.
'Of course I can make up my own mind but all the rest of you must be protected from yourselves because you can't possibly make your own decisions'.
That's PistonHeads all over, isn't it?'Of course I can make up my own mind but all the rest of you must be protected from yourselves because you can't possibly make your own decisions'.
It’s not as if William Hill are flogging PCP agreements ......
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