BA Strikes this summer (2019)
Discussion
I have done various searches but only could find references to past strikes.
So BA pilots have voted by a majority of 93% to strike this summer. Yeah! lets make things even more miserable along with crap governments and Brexit, plus the fact that I have been forced to take a full time job.
Never normally book holidays ahead, but me and the girlfriend did book a little 5 day break in Greece at the end of August but this strike could well scupper it.
BA have left me in the brown stuff and out of pocket twice already this year as well.
The dailies are saying that pilots average £150,000 per annum, which I'm sure is only in a very few cases of experienced flyers.
But are BA pilots really that hard up? Most of us have had to tighten our belts, my holiday is very cheap but I bloody need it, and was really looking forward to it.
So BA pilots have voted by a majority of 93% to strike this summer. Yeah! lets make things even more miserable along with crap governments and Brexit, plus the fact that I have been forced to take a full time job.
Never normally book holidays ahead, but me and the girlfriend did book a little 5 day break in Greece at the end of August but this strike could well scupper it.
BA have left me in the brown stuff and out of pocket twice already this year as well.
The dailies are saying that pilots average £150,000 per annum, which I'm sure is only in a very few cases of experienced flyers.
But are BA pilots really that hard up? Most of us have had to tighten our belts, my holiday is very cheap but I bloody need it, and was really looking forward to it.
Pilots are still pretty much the highest paid on average of all professions, the average salary being about 85k iirc.
I suspect there is much disparity within that figure and hence the belief they need to strike.
I think BA get paid a chunk more than the budget carriers, but whilst pilots salaries were quite depressed following 911, for several years, they've been top of the tree salary wise for several years now.
I suspect there is much disparity within that figure and hence the belief they need to strike.
I think BA get paid a chunk more than the budget carriers, but whilst pilots salaries were quite depressed following 911, for several years, they've been top of the tree salary wise for several years now.
I had a friend who went through the Ryanair scheme about eight years ago and he reckoned that after your bond, costs etc to be a "LoCo skip driver" pilot you weren't on a great deal more than 18 grand Euro (early 2010s).
He got over into freight years later and got a much better proper salary, rather than a LoCo zero hours contract. The one downside to that though was there was minimal "flight crew" staying at their destinations. In his Ryanair days they had to pay for own local accommodation, which meant lots of co-renting Air B&Bs for multiple numbers of people, more than the beds in the place - "hot bedding" a bit like submariners. Of course this led to lots of "bedroom fun" with Ryanair flight crews being "as dirty as the Concorde babes on a 1980s Barbados run at the first sight of a captains wings!".
He got over into freight years later and got a much better proper salary, rather than a LoCo zero hours contract. The one downside to that though was there was minimal "flight crew" staying at their destinations. In his Ryanair days they had to pay for own local accommodation, which meant lots of co-renting Air B&Bs for multiple numbers of people, more than the beds in the place - "hot bedding" a bit like submariners. Of course this led to lots of "bedroom fun" with Ryanair flight crews being "as dirty as the Concorde babes on a 1980s Barbados run at the first sight of a captains wings!".
valiant said:
Maybe if BA spent the time and money it wasted on futile legal action on negotiating with its pilots, it may have been able to come to some sort of agreement to avert future strike action.
It would seem they did, but the pilots union didn’t like the offer...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49175569
A friend who is a pilot was saying that airlines generally are tightening up on perks and lay overs
He currently flies a model that doesn’t have flight crew sleeping quarters so gets long lay overs
His airline is phasing them out and providing new planes that can carry two crews and provides flight crew rest areas which means less time on the beach for him !
But, ultimately less pilots being needed
He currently flies a model that doesn’t have flight crew sleeping quarters so gets long lay overs
His airline is phasing them out and providing new planes that can carry two crews and provides flight crew rest areas which means less time on the beach for him !
But, ultimately less pilots being needed
When BA took me to Zurich they took my luggage to Stuttgart and couldn't have cared less about having done so.
When BA brought me back from Zurich they were massively late & couldn't have cared less about it.
When I did regular runs to/from Paris with BA it was common for the only drink to be the one they'd spill all over one of the passengers.
Any interaction with the cabin crew was treated as an interruption to their social lives.
If ever I'm the one paying for a flight it'll be pretty much any other airline in preference to BA. They price themselves as a premium carrier but have a level of service beneath that of quite a few of the budget airlines.
When BA brought me back from Zurich they were massively late & couldn't have cared less about it.
When I did regular runs to/from Paris with BA it was common for the only drink to be the one they'd spill all over one of the passengers.
Any interaction with the cabin crew was treated as an interruption to their social lives.
If ever I'm the one paying for a flight it'll be pretty much any other airline in preference to BA. They price themselves as a premium carrier but have a level of service beneath that of quite a few of the budget airlines.
egor110 said:
If ba have already left you up the creek twice this year , why use them again ?
Slightly convoluted. We are flying Norwegian from Gatwick, but girlfriend coming in late the night before on BA, part of a package. Hotel booked at airport and early flight back out. I must admit I had always wondered about the BA hate until they abondoned my family in Nice due to a late incoming plane that then had a problem.
Flight cancelled at nearly midnight. No help forthcoming, no hotels nothing.
They finally got back 24 hours later but too late for the start of a holiday trip with one of my sons.
Thought the flag carrier would have dealt with that far better than the low costs. I was wrong.
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