The Queen is a German
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LimaDelta

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7,996 posts

242 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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How come it is ok for shouty media types to frequently spout this little gem? I saw it more than a few times on Twitter yesterday. Apart from the fact it is complete bollards (the last British Monarch to be born outside the UK was George II in 1683!), surely by their own moral standards, if a first generation immigrant with a passport is 'British' how come it is acceptable to make such a claim about someone who's 'British' ancestry goes back over 300 years?

I'm sure I already know the answer to this


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

147 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Randy Winkman

21,201 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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LimaDelta said:
How come it is ok for shouty media types to frequently spout this little gem? I saw it more than a few times on Twitter yesterday. Apart from the fact it is complete bollards (the last British Monarch to be born outside the UK was George II in 1683!), surely by their own moral standards, if a first generation immigrant with a passport is 'British' how come it is acceptable to make such a claim about someone who's 'British' ancestry goes back over 300 years?

I'm sure I already know the answer to this
Who are the people saying this and how do you know their "moral standards"?

LimaDelta

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7,996 posts

242 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Who are the people saying this and how do you know their "moral standards"?
David Baddiel for one. Usually not shy about his SJW causes. Allegedly a comedian too but this doesn't really excuse this comment. Does he consider himself British or American I wonder?

Countdown

47,814 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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I’ve never seen her wearing an England football shirt or bellowing “Three Lines on the Shirt, Jools Rimmay still gleaming...” as she staggers out of the Windsor Arms at 11pm.....her loyalty is questionable at best.

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Zirconia

36,010 posts

308 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Wonder how far many people need to go down their family trees to get an unwelcome surprise if the Queens ancestry offends them.

Randy Winkman

21,201 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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LimaDelta said:
Randy Winkman said:
Who are the people saying this and how do you know their "moral standards"?
David Baddiel for one. Usually not shy about his SJW causes. Allegedly a comedian too but this doesn't really excuse this comment. Does he consider himself British or American I wonder?
Cheers. Fair enough in his case.

Mike335i

5,856 posts

126 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Why would it be a problem if she was German? I know she isn't, but I still can't see a problem with it if she was.

It is not insulting in anyway, doesn't diminish her position as monarch or make a blind bit of difference to anyone.

Halb

53,012 posts

207 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glūcksburg, just rolls off t'tongue.

Cantaloupe

1,056 posts

84 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Oh joy is me.

Another inconsequential pus filled pimple of piffle that is lighting up the tttersphere.

Please PLEASE, tell us more.

Jinx

11,939 posts

284 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Countdown said:
I’ve never seen her wearing an England football shirt or bellowing “Three Lines on the Shirt, Jools Rimmay still gleaming...” as she staggers out of the Windsor Arms at 11pm.....her loyalty is questionable at best.

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Her mum did though scratchchin

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R Mutt

5,896 posts

96 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Surely she's European by the standards of the types you're referring to.

TTwiggy

11,799 posts

228 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Halb said:
Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Gl?cksburg, just rolls off t'tongue.
I've got a bottle of that in the fridge.

InitialDave

14,449 posts

143 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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LimaDelta said:
David Baddiel for one. Usually not shy about his SJW causes. Allegedly a comedian too but this doesn't really excuse this comment. Does he consider himself British or American I wonder?
It's just a daft joke. The royal family have German ancestry, if she did what Germany supposedly benefit from in thus situation it'd suit what I want, ho ho.

He doesn't ACTUALLY think she's German, or would act to put German interests ahead of her duties.

There's a similar joke about the monarchy in Blackadder Goes Forth.

The monarch's German ancestry doesn't actually matter, and didn't before... I guess you could say it's just a Hanover from an earlier time.

LimaDelta

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Thursday 29th August 2019
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InitialDave said:
I guess you could say it's just a Hanover from an earlier time.
Very good.

Halb

53,012 posts

207 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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InitialDave said:
It's just a daft joke. The royal family have German ancestry, if she did what Germany supposedly benefit from in thus situation it'd suit what I want, ho ho.

He doesn't ACTUALLY think she's German, or would act to put German interests ahead of her duties.

There's a similar joke about the monarchy in Blackadder Goes Forth.

The monarch's German ancestry doesn't actually matter, and didn't before... I guess you could say it's just a Hanover from an earlier time.
laugh
it was the first thing I thought if.

Darling says he is as English as Queen Victoria, Blackadder replies 'So your father's German, you're half German and you married a German.'

s2art

18,942 posts

277 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Given the Anglo-Saxon invasion I guess the bulk of the population will have some German ancestry.

gooner1

10,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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s2art said:
Given the Anglo-Saxon invasion I guess the bulk of the population will have some German ancestry.
Probably explains why they are more like the British people than any other European country, imo.

snuffy

12,577 posts

308 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Captain Darling : I'm as British as Queen Victoria!

Captain Blackadder : So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German!

Halb

53,012 posts

207 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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s2art said:
Given the Anglo-Saxon invasion I guess the bulk of the population will have some German ancestry.
THere was some genetic studies a while back that might suggest the large scale Anglo-Saxon 'invasions' may not have been as large as predominately thought. And could have been briton propaganda. It's all interesting anyway.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-353...