Suppose Boris posts the letter....
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....by regular snail mail?
At 11:59 on the 19th of October.
The 19th is a Saturday so the post box won't even get emptied until Monday the 21st. So, with the best will in the world it may take a week to get to whatever EU building it's supposed to get to, work it's way through the internal mail system and to the person its supposed to get to.
If he posts it at some obscure post box in the Highlands or Islands that could easily add another week on.
Just a thought.
At 11:59 on the 19th of October.
The 19th is a Saturday so the post box won't even get emptied until Monday the 21st. So, with the best will in the world it may take a week to get to whatever EU building it's supposed to get to, work it's way through the internal mail system and to the person its supposed to get to.
If he posts it at some obscure post box in the Highlands or Islands that could easily add another week on.
Just a thought.
Lindun said:
And a pretty idiotic one when you consider he’d be breaking the law by doing so.
Nope:[i](3)If neither of the conditions in subsection (1) or subsection (2) is satisfied,
subsection (4) must be complied with no later than 19 October 2019.
(4)10[b]The Prime Minister must seek to obtain from the European Council an
extension of the period under Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union
ending at 11.00pm on 31 October 2019 by sending to the President of the
European Council a letter in the form set out in the Schedule to this Act
[/i]
Says he has to seek an extension by sending the letter. The section is complied with as long as he does that no later than the 19th. Posting is to send it.
AJL308 said:
Nope:
[i](3)If neither of the conditions in subsection (1) or subsection (2) is satisfied,
subsection (4) must be complied with no later than 19 October 2019.
(4)10[b]The Prime Minister must seek to obtain from the European Council an
extension of the period under Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union
ending at 11.00pm on 31 October 2019 by sending to the President of the
European Council a letter in the form set out in the Schedule to this Act[/i]
Says he has to seek an extension by sending the letter. The section is complied with as long as he does that no later than the 19th. Posting is to send it.
Yes, well done you’ve defeated the lawmakers and come up with a loophole that nobody considered. [i](3)If neither of the conditions in subsection (1) or subsection (2) is satisfied,
subsection (4) must be complied with no later than 19 October 2019.
(4)10[b]The Prime Minister must seek to obtain from the European Council an
extension of the period under Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union
ending at 11.00pm on 31 October 2019 by sending to the President of the
European Council a letter in the form set out in the Schedule to this Act[/i]
Says he has to seek an extension by sending the letter. The section is complied with as long as he does that no later than the 19th. Posting is to send it.
Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
I can give you some reassurance.
Hard copy letters between Governments are not popped in the post box round the corner. They are hand-delivered by diplomats.
There are also alternatives in the 21st Century, such as secure email, and these are also employed to ensure that carrier pigeons and stage coaches are no longer required.
Hard copy letters between Governments are not popped in the post box round the corner. They are hand-delivered by diplomats.
There are also alternatives in the 21st Century, such as secure email, and these are also employed to ensure that carrier pigeons and stage coaches are no longer required.
TheFlyingBanana said:
I can give you some reassurance.
Hard copy letters between Governments are not popped in the post box round the corner. They are hand-delivered by diplomats.
There are also alternatives in the 21st Century, such as secure email, and these are also employed to ensure that carrier pigeons and stage coaches are no longer required.
So we agree that he could if he chose to.Hard copy letters between Governments are not popped in the post box round the corner. They are hand-delivered by diplomats.
There are also alternatives in the 21st Century, such as secure email, and these are also employed to ensure that carrier pigeons and stage coaches are no longer required.
AJL308 said:
Lindun said:
Yes, well done you’ve defeated the lawmakers and come up with a loophole that nobody considered.
Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
So, we agree that it's something he could do and comply with the requirements of the Act.Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
AJL308 said:
The Act requires that it is sent. It doesn't provide for how it is sent.
In much the same way the result of the Referendum doesn't stipulate how or when we should actually leave? 
Yes, he could strap the letter to an agoraphobic carrier pigeon which refuses to leave the coop for a week, and when it finally does, have Farage, Muttley and the rest of Vulture squadron chase the thing across the channel in steam-punk biplanes in a futile attempt to stop it, and then finally casually mention that he might have inadvertantly dropped some anthrax spores into the envelope as well, so best not to open it when it actually arrives.
eharding said:
AJL308 said:
The Act requires that it is sent. It doesn't provide for how it is sent.
In much the same way the result of the Referendum doesn't stipulate how or when we should actually leave? Yes, he could strap the letter to an agoraphobic carrier pigeon which refuses to leave the coop for a week, and when it finally does, have Farage, Muttley and the rest of Vulture squadron chase the thing across the channel in steam-punk biplanes in a futile attempt to stop it, and then finally casually mention that he might have inadvertantly dropped some anthrax spores into the envelope as well, so best not to open it when it actually arrives.
c6r said:
eharding said:
AJL308 said:
The Act requires that it is sent. It doesn't provide for how it is sent.
In much the same way the result of the Referendum doesn't stipulate how or when we should actually leave? Yes, he could strap the letter to an agoraphobic carrier pigeon which refuses to leave the coop for a week, and when it finally does, have Farage, Muttley and the rest of Vulture squadron chase the thing across the channel in steam-punk biplanes in a futile attempt to stop it, and then finally casually mention that he might have inadvertantly dropped some anthrax spores into the envelope as well, so best not to open it when it actually arrives.
Now you're just being silly.AJL308 said:
s2art said:
Alternatively the letter starts 'Dear Filth' and states that he is requesting an extension but then adds a number of unacceptable conditions.
It can't. The text of the letter is specified in the Act.Lindun said:
AJL308 said:
Lindun said:
Yes, well done you’ve defeated the lawmakers and come up with a loophole that nobody considered.
Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
So, we agree that it's something he could do and comply with the requirements of the Act.Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
Google Mr Loophole.
gooner1 said:
Lindun said:
AJL308 said:
Lindun said:
Yes, well done you’ve defeated the lawmakers and come up with a loophole that nobody considered.
Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
So, we agree that it's something he could do and comply with the requirements of the Act.Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
Google Mr Loophole.
Edited by Lindun on Friday 6th September 00:00
Lindun said:
gooner1 said:
Lindun said:
AJL308 said:
Lindun said:
Yes, well done you’ve defeated the lawmakers and come up with a loophole that nobody considered.
Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
So, we agree that it's something he could do and comply with the requirements of the Act.Get onto Big Nige and let him know you’ve personally delivered a No Deal Brexit
Is it sacasm when the events you describe above regularly happen ?
Google Mr Loophole.
Funnily enough the more wealthy and powerful the client is, the easier loopholes are discovered.
Though I have no idea why that is.
gooner1 said:
I used that as an example of loopholes that are found by experts.
Funnily enough the more wealthy and powerful the client is, the easier loopholes are discovered.
Though I have no idea why that is.
You’re really not seeing the difference here are you? One would be testing statue and the other just lying around a long since established law. However, just to be clear what you’d have is the government challenging a law that they’ve just put forward for Royal Assent, that had just gone through both Houses. Funnily enough the more wealthy and powerful the client is, the easier loopholes are discovered.
Though I have no idea why that is.
Traffic offence loopholes are very easy with a couple of compliant witnesses, this law less so.
Irrespective of that, you’re clutching at straws that don’t exist.
Lindun said:
gooner1 said:
I used that as an example of loopholes that are found by experts.
Funnily enough the more wealthy and powerful the client is, the easier loopholes are discovered.
Though I have no idea why that is.
You’re really not seeing the difference here are you? One would be testing statue and the other just lying around a long since established law. However, just to be clear what you’d have is the government challenging a law that they’ve just put forward for Royal Assent, that had just gone through both Houses. Funnily enough the more wealthy and powerful the client is, the easier loopholes are discovered.
Though I have no idea why that is.
Traffic offence loopholes are very easy with a couple of compliant witnesses, this law less so.
Irrespective of that, you’re clutching at straws that don’t exist.
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