Dominic Cummings
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How much influence does he have at the moment?
Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
If you look a the press they seem to think he has a lot of influence, he's even managed to get a NY Times article about him!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/opinion/sunday/...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/opinion/sunday/...
cookie118 said:
How much influence does he have at the moment?
Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
Lots of influence thankfully as he is one of the few things making the Conservatives worth voting for after the May years.Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
and he has long had contempt for parliament they just officially recognised it recently.
cookie118 said:
How much influence does he have at the moment?
Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
There’s always someone in the background, I’m not sure it’s anything new. Blair had Campbell, Thatcher had that gruff old Yorkshire bloke who’s name escapes me and so on. Whether Cummings has more influence is debatable, remember he also sacked a treasury official, but we live in extraordinary times. Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
Blue62 said:
cookie118 said:
How much influence does he have at the moment?
Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
There’s always someone in the background, I’m not sure it’s anything new. Blair had Campbell, Thatcher had that gruff old Yorkshire bloke who’s name escapes me and so on. Whether Cummings has more influence is debatable, remember he also sacked a treasury official, but we live in extraordinary times. Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
Not many people know that Yes, Prime Minister was a documentary...
JagLover said:
Lots of influence thankfully as he is one of the few things making the Conservatives worth voting for after the May years.
and he has long had contempt for parliament they just officially recognised it recently.
And yet he is neither a member of the conservative party nor in a position that can be voted in or out, and I believe has never held elected office.and he has long had contempt for parliament they just officially recognised it recently.
Biker 1 said:
Nothing new, nothing to see here....
BJ employs an adviser. So what? What's the difference between him & Alastair Campbell? Why should an adviser be elected?
Are we not allowed to ask?BJ employs an adviser. So what? What's the difference between him & Alastair Campbell? Why should an adviser be elected?
I for one would like to know how much influence he has (never say BoJo as the brains of the outfit) and how responsible he is for this mess. I would also like to know how far his ties go to other organisations.
Biker 1 said:
Nothing new, nothing to see here....
BJ employs an adviser. So what? What's the difference between him & Alastair Campbell? Why should an adviser be elected?
Totally agree. Don't recall anyone getting their pants in a twist over Blair employing Campbell. Couldn't stand the man. Smarmy snake oil salesman. Tbh I think it was him who mastered the art of spin. Still makes my blood boil whenever he opens his mouth. At least with Cummings, he isn't PC driven. Campbell was one of the first virtue signallers as well. A typical hypocritical champagne socialistBJ employs an adviser. So what? What's the difference between him & Alastair Campbell? Why should an adviser be elected?
JagLover said:
cookie118 said:
How much influence does he have at the moment?
Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
Lots of influence thankfully as he is one of the few things making the Conservatives worth voting for after the May years.Despite not being a member of the conservative party he appears to have been instrumental in the decision to expel those who voted against brexit and according to reports even openly boasted to one mp that they were going to be purged.
He has also been given a Westminster pass despite being held in contempt of parliament in the past, and then apparently had a drunken rant at Corbyn about an election.
I do wonder what leavers, especially those who would normally vote conservative think about someone who has never been elected to this position holding influence to the point where they can apparently single handedly remove elected officials?
and he has long had contempt for parliament they just officially recognised it recently.
The fact that he appears to be able to make decisions over the heads of elected MP's and Ministers is not ok, under any circumstances. Their authority comes from a representative parliamentary system.
Make no mistake, people like Cummings are toxic, and care nothing for the national good, only their own agendas.
TheFlyingBanana said:
Cummings is already in contempt of parliament, and clearly has huge influence over the Government at the moment. I find that anti-democratic and completely unnacceptable - as it should be to any sensible and democratic British citizen.
The fact that he appears to be able to make decisions over the heads of elected MP's and Ministers is not ok, under any circumstances. Their authority comes from a representative parliamentary system.
Make no mistake, people like Cummings are toxic, and care nothing for the national good, only their own agendas.
Nope, you just see him as a threat your your utopian wet dreamThe fact that he appears to be able to make decisions over the heads of elected MP's and Ministers is not ok, under any circumstances. Their authority comes from a representative parliamentary system.
Make no mistake, people like Cummings are toxic, and care nothing for the national good, only their own agendas.
The PM needs advisors, its simply too big a role for one person to simply sit down and make informed decisions each day on. You cannot vote these advisors in, what happens, like any business, is that the PM will surround himself with advisors who share the same political ideology. So what you wont get from Cummings is objective advice on brexit, he will simply reinforce the no deal exit Boris is trying to achieve with strategic advice that would support that decision.
TheFlyingBanana said:
Cummings is already in contempt of parliament.
No one with half a brain could examine the facts around that and take that load of crap with any seriousness. You say he's in contempt of Parliament as if he's killed one of the Queen's Corgis, the reality is Damien Collins doesn't like him because Cummings thrashed him in the Referendum.b
hstewie said:
hstewie said: Lots probably.
However as I've said on another thread, my view towards him is "nothing personal".
To use an analogy it's a bit like buying a banned dog breed and being surprised when it rips your kids arm off.
Do you blame the dog or the parents?
I just look at him in the same way as Alistair Campbell in the Blair years. Employed to pull the strings and formulate a strategy.However as I've said on another thread, my view towards him is "nothing personal".
To use an analogy it's a bit like buying a banned dog breed and being surprised when it rips your kids arm off.
Do you blame the dog or the parents?
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