Gender studies. Made up BS
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Pesty

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42,655 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Hmmm
Gender studies has been based on this guys books for decades

https://quillette.com/2019/09/17/i-basically-just-...

I Basically Just Made It Up’: Confessions of a Social Constructionist


The problem is: I was wrong. Or, to be a bit more accurate, I got things partly right. But then, for the rest, I basically just made it up.

In my defence, I wasn’t alone. Everyone was (and is) making it up. That’s how the gender-studies field works.

To reiterate: The problem was, and is, that I was making it all up. These were educated guesses I was offering. They were hypotheses. Maybe I was right. But neither I, nor anyone else, ever thought to scrutinize what I wrote. What that older scholar told me could apply to thousands of other papers and books: The middle is fine, but the parts at either end are dodgy.

My flawed reasoning, and other scholarship using the same defective thinking, now is being taken up by activists and governments to legislate a new moral code of conduct. It was one thing when I was having drinks with fellow grad students and battling it out in the inconsequential world of our own egos. But now much more is at stake. I wish I could say that the scholarship has become better—the rules of evidence and peer review more demanding. But the reality is that the current almost total acceptance of social constructivism in certain circles seems more the result of demographic change within the academy, with certain viewpoints coming to dominate even more than in my grad-school heyday.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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That's a good read Pesty

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

132 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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From that bastion of solid scientific journalism The Quillette laugh.

bucksmanuk

2,407 posts

194 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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closely linked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZZNvT1vaJg
its hilarious...

a bit more on it
https://psmag.com/education/a-philosophers-hoax-em...
what most of us expected all along

Randy Winkman

21,200 posts

213 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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[quote=Pesty]Hmmm
Gender studies has been based on this guys books for decades

https://quillette.com/2019/09/17/i-basically-just-...

Can you explain how much of what students learn is based on his writings? That's an open question, I've no idea myself since I've never studied the topic.

Pesty

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42,655 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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bucksmanuk said:
closely linked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZZNvT1vaJg
its hilarious...

a bit more on it
https://psmag.com/education/a-philosophers-hoax-em...
what most of us expected all along
Listening now.

Yeah I’ve read about those guys before. Staggering really. Showed how false the peer review system is.

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

225 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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I've listen to a couple of podcasts with two chaps who entered in ridiculous papers for peer review. Some got through and some didn't...if I can find the podcasts I'll link them but in the meantime he's the first article I found when I searched for them...

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/15/17951492/grievance-...

Ah! Beaten to it from above smile

Edited by hondafanatic on Thursday 19th September 12:17

montecristo

1,081 posts

201 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Pesty said:
Gender studies has been based on this guys books for decades
Hardly. In terms of citations, mentions on Google Ngrams, appearances on Google, Amazon ranking, mentions on Twitter, he is not even a rounding error compared to de Beauvoir or even Greer. Plus his main book is not decades old.

People with more relevance for the many Pistonheaders who will be fascinated by gender studies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_studies

Vizsla

1,202 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Pesty said:
Showed how false the peer review system is.
Dare you to go on the Climate Change thread and suggest that to the believers laugh

Pesty

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280 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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montecristo said:
Hardly. In terms of citations, mentions on Google Ngrams, appearances on Google, Amazon ranking, mentions on Twitter, he is not even a rounding error compared to de Beauvoir or even Greer. Plus his main book is not decades old.

People with more relevance for the many Pistonheaders who will be fascinated by gender studies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_studies
Yes ok a decade. his first book was 2007

He says this

The book didn’t win any awards, but it seems to have become one of those books scholars sometimes cite whenever they want to write about the history of masculinity. Look, they’ll say, someone else wrote about this: That Canadian fellow Dummitt did way back in 2007. (Google Scholar tells me it has been cited 112 times as of July, 2019. That isn’t much. But Canadian history is a small field and citations numbers are usually quite low for everyone.) These days, masculinity—especially of the “toxic” variety—is a hot subject. But at the time, there were few books written about masculinity in Canada, and so mine got more than its share of attention.

So they’ve been citing it.

He’s making it and claims everybody else is too.

His book is out there. Students read it, professors cite it.

Students go out into the world spouting made up BS and build on it.

Jinx

11,939 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th September 2019
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Pesty said:
montecristo said:
Hardly. In terms of citations, mentions on Google Ngrams, appearances on Google, Amazon ranking, mentions on Twitter, he is not even a rounding error compared to de Beauvoir or even Greer. Plus his main book is not decades old.

People with more relevance for the many Pistonheaders who will be fascinated by gender studies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_studies
Yes ok a decade. his first book was 2007

He says this

The book didn’t win any awards, but it seems to have become one of those books scholars sometimes cite whenever they want to write about the history of masculinity. Look, they’ll say, someone else wrote about this: That Canadian fellow Dummitt did way back in 2007. (Google Scholar tells me it has been cited 112 times as of July, 2019. That isn’t much. But Canadian history is a small field and citations numbers are usually quite low for everyone.) These days, masculinity—especially of the “toxic” variety—is a hot subject. But at the time, there were few books written about masculinity in Canada, and so mine got more than its share of attention.

So they’ve been citing it.

He’s making it and claims everybody else is too.
So social constructs are social constructs? Who knew.......

It's all made up - cogito, ergo sum