North Macedonia and Albania
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anonymous-user

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78 months

Thursday 3rd October 2019
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Leaders of the EU's main institutions on Thursday put pressure on member states to start accession talks with North Macedonia and Albania "no later" than this month.

In a letter, the current and future presidents of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker and Ursula von der Leyen, as well as European Council President Donald Tusk and European Parliament President David Sassoli said the two Balkan nations have done "what we asked them to do." They wrote that the EU faces a "strategic choice.

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https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-chiefs-call-for...

dandarez

13,911 posts

307 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Well, that's just a normal process for those in charge at the EU.

What could possibly go wrong getting those two western Balkans countries to join?
Yeah, there's a tad bit of history of conflict, corruption, organised crime, not to mention the poverty, but that's all.

They would fit in jolly well!

Cantaloupe

1,056 posts

84 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Thank fook, we are leaving at the right time [ we are leaving aren't we ? ]

They are letting the riff-raff into the EU now, we'll be spared the grim reality of
Macedonian beggars and Albanian plumbers, part-time sex traffickers and associated rapists.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

220 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Cantaloupe said:
Thank fook, we are leaving at the right time [ we are leaving aren't we ? ]

They are letting the riff-raff into the EU now, we'll be spared the grim reality of
Macedonian beggars and Albanian plumbers, part-time sex traffickers and associated rapists.
Yeah, who needs them coming in, taking our Romanian, Turkish and Polish jobs!

Poor plumbers though, lumbered in with the beggars, sex traffickers and rapists.

Crumpet

5,088 posts

204 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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I’m struggling to think of a single benefit to existing EU members and the EU itself. What am I missing? Is it simply the endless supply of cheap labour? Or some kind of philanthropic venture? Or are they just tidying up the borders?

Lindun

1,965 posts

86 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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How many of you think that this means they’ll be let in by Christmas?

hutchst

3,727 posts

120 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Crumpet said:
I’m struggling to think of a single benefit to existing EU members and the EU itself. What am I missing? Is it simply the endless supply of cheap labour? Or some kind of philanthropic venture? Or are they just tidying up the borders?
They are following a tried and tested plan of organisational development that was originally developed by Sepp Blatter.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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JC Juncker wrote that if the EU doesn't take them in then "our immediate neighbourhood will be shaped by others". It's about spheres of influence and it is expansionism or empire building. This reflects their desire to avoid an independent UK in their immediate neighbourhood.

stongle

5,910 posts

186 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Its either the EU or Russia.

anonymous-user

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78 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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It's possible to be neither.

irocfan

47,040 posts

214 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Crumpet said:
I’m struggling to think of a single benefit to existing EU members and the EU itself. What am I missing? Is it simply the endless supply of cheap labour? Or some kind of philanthropic venture? Or are they just tidying up the borders?
I suspect that empires always need to expand - this will be the *legacy* of the current bunch of twunts at the helm

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Read JCJ's State of the Union 2018 document.

stongle

5,910 posts

186 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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anonymous said:
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Really? The EU is at loggerheads with Russia on many issues. By allowing the Eastern European states into the club, is an attempt to reduce Russian influence on its borders.

Look, I believe the EC (and some of the nations within the EU - note the difference between EC and EU), is as bent as a piece of toilet pipework, but this kinda makes sense from a geopolitical standpoint.

paulrockliffe

16,413 posts

251 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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But the logical extension of that is to include everything between the EU and Russia in the EU. Then you have Russia on your actual border.

stongle

5,910 posts

186 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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paulrockliffe said:
But the logical extension of that is to include everything between the EU and Russia in the EU. Then you have Russia on your actual border.
True, but you are controlling yourside of the border.

You don't want to wake up one morning to find that fuzzy area is loaded with T-80's and SA-21 Growlers ( oh-err).


Ratski83

953 posts

97 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Cantaloupe said:
Thank fook, we are leaving at the right time [ we are leaving aren't we ? ]

They are letting the riff-raff into the EU now, we'll be spared the grim reality of
Macedonian beggars and Albanian plumbers, part-time sex traffickers and associated rapists.
Albanians only seem good at plumbing cocaine up the nostrils of the progressive liberal luvvies, champagne socialists and their junky millennial offspring.

Keith Vaz will no doubt be there to greet them at the airport with his rent boys.




Edited by Ratski83 on Friday 4th October 08:47

Lindun

1,965 posts

86 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Lindun said:
How many of you think that this means they’ll be let in by Christmas?
I see nobody is bothering answering this, instead going off on the OMG it’ll happen next week approach.

Murph7355

40,984 posts

280 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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stongle said:
paulrockliffe said:
But the logical extension of that is to include everything between the EU and Russia in the EU. Then you have Russia on your actual border.
True, but you are controlling yourside of the border.

You don't want to wake up one morning to find that fuzzy area is loaded with T-80's and SA-21 Growlers ( oh-err).
IMO moves like this will do more to poke the hornet's nest than leaving the air gap. And the EU are incompetent where military intervention is concerned.

I wonder how quickly member states can ramp up their NATO subs as they're going to need to.

But on a brighter note it's good to see the EU recognising the imminent loss of a net contributor and replacing it with countries that can fill the gap.... I'd quite like to be a fly on the wall at their next budget meetings and allocating who picks up what biggrin

irocfan

47,040 posts

214 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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Lindun said:
Lindun said:
How many of you think that this means they’ll be let in by Christmas?
I see nobody is bothering answering this, instead going off on the OMG it’ll happen next week approach.
That's because you generally post shyte when it comes to t'EU

Lindun

1,965 posts

86 months

Friday 4th October 2019
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irocfan said:
Lindun said:
Lindun said:
How many of you think that this means they’ll be let in by Christmas?
I see nobody is bothering answering this, instead going off on the OMG it’ll happen next week approach.
That's because you generally post shyte when it comes to t'EU
What like asking a question that would render most of the comments on this thread irrelevant, or is just that it needs to be an echo chamber of Brexiteers for it not to be “shyte”

Just to answer this, it is likely to take at least a decade once talks start. Turkey started in the 1950s and has only managed to meet one of the 35 chapters needed to gain membership and 20 of them haven’t even been started.