Black Face....or not
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Cos play you know the folk that dress up as Mario, He-man, Chun Li etc well the winner of the French Cosplay cup (yeah there is a cup) has been band from the European final for alleged "Black face"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-49999704
Now she made a costume of a male character from a game who was dark skinned. It really does not feel like the was trying to be a minstrel etc, are we just too sensitive now or is she a vile racist.
My 2pc nah she just made a cool costume end of an this is light hearted an not about Brexit for a change
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-49999704
Now she made a costume of a male character from a game who was dark skinned. It really does not feel like the was trying to be a minstrel etc, are we just too sensitive now or is she a vile racist.
My 2pc nah she just made a cool costume end of an this is light hearted an not about Brexit for a change
Gecko1978 said:
Cos play you know the folk that dress up as Mario, He-man, Chun Li etc well the winner of the French Cosplay cup (yeah there is a cup) has been band from the European final for alleged "Black face"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-49999704
Now she made a costume of a male character from a game who was dark skinned. It really does not feel like the was trying to be a minstrel etc, are we just too sensitive now or is she a vile racist.
My 2pc nah she just made a cool costume end of an this is light hearted an not about Brexit for a change
Seems rather odd and contradictory. A white woman being wearing a darker coloured costume is a problem. Wearing a suit of a different gender is OK, it seems.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-49999704
Now she made a costume of a male character from a game who was dark skinned. It really does not feel like the was trying to be a minstrel etc, are we just too sensitive now or is she a vile racist.
My 2pc nah she just made a cool costume end of an this is light hearted an not about Brexit for a change
The rule and hierarchy of offence seem to be getting more and more convoluted.
Well... 40+ years ago.... my gran loved "The Black and White Minstrel Show"
She loved the dancing.
She didn't twig to some blokes from Wales blacking up and how it could be seen as offensive.
She was gutted when the show was canned.
It belongs in the past.
Unless you are doing some kind of documentary of the period - I struggle to see why anyone would black up.
She loved the dancing.
She didn't twig to some blokes from Wales blacking up and how it could be seen as offensive.
She was gutted when the show was canned.
It belongs in the past.
Unless you are doing some kind of documentary of the period - I struggle to see why anyone would black up.
My (white, 4 year old) son loves Black Panther. We saw a full suit and mask at an Avengers exhibition recently that he would have loved. No face paint required.
5 minutes researching on Twitter when I got home suggested that other white kids and their folks have received a fair bit of abuse for doing exactly that, consensus suggested it's absolutely not ok if you're not black.
Try explaining that one to a 4 year old...
5 minutes researching on Twitter when I got home suggested that other white kids and their folks have received a fair bit of abuse for doing exactly that, consensus suggested it's absolutely not ok if you're not black.
Try explaining that one to a 4 year old...
"EuroCosplay were also asked to take another look at their rules, "to prevent racist cosplays" making it to the finals."
who asked them to look at their rules, A regulator? community groups? media sponsors?
Nope a tweet from a user called: 2poops4myself
Have we really reached a point where random internet idiots are recon-texted into actual news articles as official journalism
who asked them to look at their rules, A regulator? community groups? media sponsors?
Nope a tweet from a user called: 2poops4myself
Have we really reached a point where random internet idiots are recon-texted into actual news articles as official journalism
ukaskew said:
My (white, 4 year old) son loves Black Panther. We saw a full suit and mask at an Avengers exhibition recently that he would have loved. No face paint required.
5 minutes researching on Twitter when I got home suggested that other white kids and their folks have received a fair bit of abuse for doing exactly that, consensus suggested it's absolutely not ok if you're not black.
Try explaining that one to a 4 year old...
Can you explain why you give any weight to the twitter-sewer? I'd suggest If your son wants to dress up as a man/woman/cat/whatever and to pull the role off properly he has to wear black face make up then it's absolutely fine. He's DRESSING UP, it's an ACT.5 minutes researching on Twitter when I got home suggested that other white kids and their folks have received a fair bit of abuse for doing exactly that, consensus suggested it's absolutely not ok if you're not black.
Try explaining that one to a 4 year old...
The B+W Minstrel show is now considered offensive because white people blacked up and tried to carry off stereotypical mannerisms of Afro-Caribbean/Black people. Unless your son don's a frizzy wig and has lip enhancing injections while waving his hands about singing Mammy or Dayo he would be fine.
ukaskew said:
My (white, 4 year old) son loves Black Panther. We saw a full suit and mask at an Avengers exhibition recently that he would have loved. No face paint required.
5 minutes researching on Twitter when I got home suggested that other white kids and their folks have received a fair bit of abuse for doing exactly that, consensus suggested it's absolutely not ok if you're not black.
Try explaining that one to a 4 year old...
A bunch of pre-school kids will play together without even thinking about stuff - they just have fun and get on with it - as soon as they go to school, they start to get taught the differences between them all.5 minutes researching on Twitter when I got home suggested that other white kids and their folks have received a fair bit of abuse for doing exactly that, consensus suggested it's absolutely not ok if you're not black.
Try explaining that one to a 4 year old...
king bike, she's hardly dancing around dressed up as a minstrel, is she?InitialDave said:
popeyewhite said:
What's 'cosplay'?
Dressing up as characters, usually ones from anime and games, but nowadays it refers to pretty much any such costume including film and TV characters.
(Not that I'm averse to the former!
)When I googled pictures of the character, it was nigh on impossible to see his/it's ethnicity
this is genuine but why is someone blacking up so offensive?
If I dressed up as a woman, fat bloke(easy one that), Scotsman with Ginger wig, French Onion seller etc etc no one would care so why is blackface so bad?
I recently gave a whole lot of books from my childhood(70;s) to a friend for their kids. Mostly Beatrix Potter.
In amongst them was the wee book "Little Black Sambo". It's actually a nice, harmless kids storybook but I removed it as it is deemed offensive. BUT there is nothing actually offensive about it.
Maybe I am just a too simple country boy.
If I dressed up as a woman, fat bloke(easy one that), Scotsman with Ginger wig, French Onion seller etc etc no one would care so why is blackface so bad?
I recently gave a whole lot of books from my childhood(70;s) to a friend for their kids. Mostly Beatrix Potter.
In amongst them was the wee book "Little Black Sambo". It's actually a nice, harmless kids storybook but I removed it as it is deemed offensive. BUT there is nothing actually offensive about it.
Maybe I am just a too simple country boy.
Edited by loskie on Friday 11th October 08:31
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