UK sleepwalking into a Crime Pandemic ?
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I have seen a comment on one of the brexit threads where someone has suggested that one of the biggest
crisis' that we face is a crime pandemic. Is this really the case?, are crime figures soaring to such an extent
that it can be described as pandemic, or has it been pandemic for many years?.
If so then what do we see as being the most prevalent crimes, and who / what is causing it?, and more
importantly what can be done to alleviate the alleged pandemic?
crisis' that we face is a crime pandemic. Is this really the case?, are crime figures soaring to such an extent
that it can be described as pandemic, or has it been pandemic for many years?.
If so then what do we see as being the most prevalent crimes, and who / what is causing it?, and more
importantly what can be done to alleviate the alleged pandemic?
Pastor Of Muppets said:
I have seen a comment on one of the brexit threads where someone has suggested that one of the biggest
crisis' that we face is a crime pandemic. Is this really the case?, are crime figures soaring to such an extent
that it can be described as pandemic, or has it been pandemic for many years?.
If so then what do we see as being the most prevalent crimes, and who / what is causing it?, and more
importantly what can be done to alleviate the alleged pandemic?
You got all that based on a comment from a randomer on an Internet forum?crisis' that we face is a crime pandemic. Is this really the case?, are crime figures soaring to such an extent
that it can be described as pandemic, or has it been pandemic for many years?.
If so then what do we see as being the most prevalent crimes, and who / what is causing it?, and more
importantly what can be done to alleviate the alleged pandemic?
On the surface it appears that crime is on the "up", but obviously we have 20k new police being recruited to fix that - except it wont, because the court system has been run into the ground.
Is it a pandemic? Not to my mind, but is it on the up - I think, yes.
Is this anything to do with Brexit? No..
Is it a pandemic? Not to my mind, but is it on the up - I think, yes.
Is this anything to do with Brexit? No..
R Mutt said:
Probably got it from Corbyn who implied a hard Brexit resulting in leaving Europol would eliminate one of our key tools in catching criminals..
Nope, totally wrong, got it from the 'Brexit, what have you learnt' thread, page 20, posted by 'passionfriday', Didn't say I agreed with it.
,simply asking a couple of questions.
But i do wonder if folk on here have an aversion to talking about crime in the UK, It wouldn't be the first time it has been
a discussion and quickly jumped on by some ...... posting 'snowflake?' or some other retort to quell the debate.
Maybe i should now ask...Is UK crime a taboo subject on NP&E ?
Pastor Of Muppets said:
Nope, totally wrong, got it from the 'Brexit, what have you learnt' thread, page 20, posted by 'passionfriday', Didn't say I agreed with it.,
simply asking a couple of questions.
But i do wonder if folk on here have an aversion to talking about crime in the UK, It wouldn't be the first time it has been
a discussion and quickly jumped on by some ...... posting 'snowflake?' or some other retort to quell the debate.
Maybe i should now ask...Is UK crime a taboo subject on NP&E ?
No one has an aversion to talking about crime on here, it comes up regularly and is discussed, moaned about and different posters give their ‘tuppence worth’. Whether you agree with them is another matter.,simply asking a couple of questions.
But i do wonder if folk on here have an aversion to talking about crime in the UK, It wouldn't be the first time it has been
a discussion and quickly jumped on by some ...... posting 'snowflake?' or some other retort to quell the debate.
Maybe i should now ask...Is UK crime a taboo subject on NP&E ?
For me, it’s generally as simple as reduce bobbies, get more crime. Yes, HMG has promised 20k more officers but is this on top of those who are planning to leave/retire from the various forces over the next five years which coincidentally is also around 20k officers or just to replace them?
Also, you have things like better reporting, encouraging people who were reluctant to report a specific subset of crimes (like hate crimes, sexual crimes, etc) which traditionally were very under unreported in years past which will obviously bump up the figures.
Don’t agree there’s a ‘pandemic of crime’ as that’s a very Daily Mail way of seeing things but I acknowledge that recorded crime has increased.
Have a listen to R4 - You & Yours & Moneybox I think, at how gangs are targeting teens for County Lines & Money Laundering.
I suspect just a tip of the iceberg, but like knife crime, soon to be ubiquitous in the news.
Illegal immigration & people trafficking with links to networks of convenience stores also (recently featured in another R4 prog).
I wonder where the tipping point is & when will we reach it.
I suspect just a tip of the iceberg, but like knife crime, soon to be ubiquitous in the news.
Illegal immigration & people trafficking with links to networks of convenience stores also (recently featured in another R4 prog).
I wonder where the tipping point is & when will we reach it.
R Mutt said:
Probably got it from Corbyn who implied a hard Brexit resulting in leaving Europol would eliminate one of our key tools in catching criminals.
On the plus side we can deny entry to or deport EU criminals.
We could (and did) do that already. Brexit makes it more difficult to do so.On the plus side we can deny entry to or deport EU criminals.
Not sure if you can view this but something really needs to be done about these moped-riding a
holes.
https://www.facebook.com/210646142917301/posts/433...
They just don't give a toss.
holes.https://www.facebook.com/210646142917301/posts/433...
They just don't give a toss.
As the economy and moral standards gradually disintegrate, the value of life reduces and the volume of crimes against the person escalate in frequency and intensity.
Knife crime and murder, rape and sexual assault, drug dealing and general gangsterism controlled by extreme violence.
Combined with weak ineffective governance and complete lack of moral compass and guidance there’s every ingredient of the rotten recipe for social collapse.
Knife crime and murder, rape and sexual assault, drug dealing and general gangsterism controlled by extreme violence.
Combined with weak ineffective governance and complete lack of moral compass and guidance there’s every ingredient of the rotten recipe for social collapse.
There are crime statistics out there for the UK - which I think showed a decreasing trend.
However statistics can be very misleading and misused.
Crimes that appear on the stats are obviously only the crimes that are reported.
Which opens the door to many questions such as - are people losing trust in the ability of the police to act up on reported crimes, and as such are fewer people reporting crimes although crime rates may be on the up? (etc.)
From what I remember of the recent stats - Knife crime is on the up however violent crime on the whole is much less that what it used to be in the early 2000's.
However statistics can be very misleading and misused.
Crimes that appear on the stats are obviously only the crimes that are reported.
Which opens the door to many questions such as - are people losing trust in the ability of the police to act up on reported crimes, and as such are fewer people reporting crimes although crime rates may be on the up? (etc.)
From what I remember of the recent stats - Knife crime is on the up however violent crime on the whole is much less that what it used to be in the early 2000's.
OzzyR1 said:
Not sure if you can view this but something really needs to be done about these moped-riding aholes.
https://www.facebook.com/210646142917301/posts/433...
They just don't give a toss.
Moped crime in London is down by 50% - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7420343/M...holes.https://www.facebook.com/210646142917301/posts/433...
They just don't give a toss.
rscott said:
OzzyR1 said:
Not sure if you can view this but something really needs to be done about these moped-riding aholes.
https://www.facebook.com/210646142917301/posts/433...
They just don't give a toss.
Moped crime in London is down by 50% - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7420343/M...holes.https://www.facebook.com/210646142917301/posts/433...
They just don't give a toss.
For here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...
I think the perception of crime is increasing, thanks largely to the media reporting every single instance. On a personal level, I am not aware of any more crime today than at any time in the past.
CzechItOut said:
For here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunit...
I think the perception of crime is increasing, thanks largely to the media reporting every single instance. On a personal level, I am not aware of any more crime today than at any time in the past.
I wonder if the recording pattern has changed & whether the inner city levels have seen a disproportionate rise.
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