Do Millennials Need to Know About WWII?
Discussion
Instagram influencer Freddie Bentley.
Thankfully he is a Brand Ambassador for clothing and not anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFwkuETFhU
Thankfully he is a Brand Ambassador for clothing and not anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFwkuETFhU
Get an empty headed dumbass to give his opinion about something he knows nothing about.
The fact that he left school knowing nothing is possibly down to him rather than his education.
We need more than ever to know about World War 2 and the events that led up to it. If history is forgotten, history gets repeated. If this young fool is concerned about the mental health of children, maybe he should learn a little about how the Nazis treated mentally ill people.
The fact that he left school knowing nothing is possibly down to him rather than his education.
We need more than ever to know about World War 2 and the events that led up to it. If history is forgotten, history gets repeated. If this young fool is concerned about the mental health of children, maybe he should learn a little about how the Nazis treated mentally ill people.
Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 5th November 10:43
Eric Mc said:
Get an empty headed dumbass to give his opinion about something he knows nothing about.
The fact that he left school knowing nothing is possibly down to him rather than his education.
We need more than ever to know about World War 2 and the events that led up to it. If history is forgotten, history gets repeated. If this young fool is concerned about the mental health of children, maybe he should learn a little about how the Nazis treated mentally ill people.
agree.The fact that he left school knowing nothing is possibly down to him rather than his education.
We need more than ever to know about World War 2 and the events that led up to it. If history is forgotten, history gets repeated. If this young fool is concerned about the mental health of children, maybe he should learn a little about how the Nazis treated mentally ill people.
Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 5th November 10:43
WW2 and the lead up is when you think about not long ago at all. Its just 1 lifetime ago. We are so fortunate to have been born when we have and not had to face a world war.
As Eric has said the history is important to understand and try not to make the same mistakes or to let things get like that again. There were steps that led upto the rise of Hitler/Nazi party which allowed it to grow.
I don't blame him for being an airhead and not knowing - there are plenty of other young people that do know but they are not airheads.
Eric Mc said:
Get an empty headed dumbass to give his opinion about something he knows nothing about.
The fact that he left school knowing nothing is possibly down to him rather than his education.
We need more than ever to know about World War 2 and the events that led up to it. If history is forgotten, history gets repeated. If this young fool is concerned about the mental health of children, maybe he should learn a little about how the Nazis treated mentally ill people.
Quite right.The fact that he left school knowing nothing is possibly down to him rather than his education.
We need more than ever to know about World War 2 and the events that led up to it. If history is forgotten, history gets repeated. If this young fool is concerned about the mental health of children, maybe he should learn a little about how the Nazis treated mentally ill people.
Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 5th November 10:43
Excusing oneself from their formal education is de-rigueur in the current climate though.
As a token millennial I watched about 30 seconds of that prick and closed the browser tab.
WW2 is important and should be taught at school. Same goes for WW1 and all major conflicts in the past, Roman invasion, Vikings, Hastings etc etc. Its part of history, by not teaching it or making it available you are censoring history which is actually much worse.
Climate change was part of our curriculum although 20 odd years ago less was known.
We weren't really taught life skills beyond, "find a job, earn money, save for house or holidays" no one taught me what interest was at school or how and what savings were, fortunately my Dad did, he gave me alot more life skills than school, but parents have to teach their children stuff too right? I wish I had listened to him more when I was younger and it took me until my late 20's before I realised I should have paid more attention to what he was telling me, but that was on me, not him, similarly blaming your education for not being prepared for the world is on you, not the education you received.
WW2 is important and should be taught at school. Same goes for WW1 and all major conflicts in the past, Roman invasion, Vikings, Hastings etc etc. Its part of history, by not teaching it or making it available you are censoring history which is actually much worse.
Climate change was part of our curriculum although 20 odd years ago less was known.
We weren't really taught life skills beyond, "find a job, earn money, save for house or holidays" no one taught me what interest was at school or how and what savings were, fortunately my Dad did, he gave me alot more life skills than school, but parents have to teach their children stuff too right? I wish I had listened to him more when I was younger and it took me until my late 20's before I realised I should have paid more attention to what he was telling me, but that was on me, not him, similarly blaming your education for not being prepared for the world is on you, not the education you received.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Instagram influencer Freddie Bentley.
Thankfully he is a Brand Ambassador for clothing and not anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFwkuETFhU
What did you do in the war Jimmy lad?Thankfully he is a Brand Ambassador for clothing and not anything else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFwkuETFhU
Many millenials are approaching their 30s. There is a question though about Generation Z and beyond.
Is the issue that because those born in the 1910s and 1920s didn't learn enough about the Franco-Prussian War or the Crimean War, that WW2 happened (using the line that its important to learn about 1930s Germany to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past). Is it important to know about the Boer War to understand that within that, lay the roots of the NHS (first mass recruitment to the army showed 7 out of 10 men failing the basic medical. Suddenly the Generals got worried that in the next big war, there would not be enough men for that arm. So the state became interested in public health. Many of the army medical officers during the Boer War became powerful proponents of the idea of a public healthcare system during the 1920s, eg. Alfred Keogh).
The School Inspector had his facts wrong though, 50 million didn't die fighting "fascism". Most died because of it. Some might have been motivated because of that particular fight, but many others were motivated by more patriotic causes.
WW2 is going to fade rather quickly into history. My father was a little kid during it, and only remembers doodle bugs. He's 80, and has Alzheimers. Everyone in my family who had some direct involvement is dead now. The only people in the family I know involved in WW1 were dead before I was born. How do you teach the relevance of any of that to my 10 year old nephew. Its all so long ago for him. To him, its no more relevant than when I was at school being told about Florence Nightingale, but nothing else about the Crimean War. Can you really understand the events of 1932 without knowing the events leading upto the 1914 declaration of war? Probably not.
But if you can; define and describe a particular set of events, while ignoring previous, then perhaps Generation X should be more focused on events of 50 years ago; 1969 and onwards. Problem is, while pretty much everyone agrees why WW2 occurred, its more difficult to agree on why the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979, the fall of the Shah, the Iran-Iraq War, all events which have seismic effects on the world of last week. Perhaps the School Curriculum should think about (if not already) move away from WW2 towards considering the Cold War.
Is the issue that because those born in the 1910s and 1920s didn't learn enough about the Franco-Prussian War or the Crimean War, that WW2 happened (using the line that its important to learn about 1930s Germany to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past). Is it important to know about the Boer War to understand that within that, lay the roots of the NHS (first mass recruitment to the army showed 7 out of 10 men failing the basic medical. Suddenly the Generals got worried that in the next big war, there would not be enough men for that arm. So the state became interested in public health. Many of the army medical officers during the Boer War became powerful proponents of the idea of a public healthcare system during the 1920s, eg. Alfred Keogh).
The School Inspector had his facts wrong though, 50 million didn't die fighting "fascism". Most died because of it. Some might have been motivated because of that particular fight, but many others were motivated by more patriotic causes.
WW2 is going to fade rather quickly into history. My father was a little kid during it, and only remembers doodle bugs. He's 80, and has Alzheimers. Everyone in my family who had some direct involvement is dead now. The only people in the family I know involved in WW1 were dead before I was born. How do you teach the relevance of any of that to my 10 year old nephew. Its all so long ago for him. To him, its no more relevant than when I was at school being told about Florence Nightingale, but nothing else about the Crimean War. Can you really understand the events of 1932 without knowing the events leading upto the 1914 declaration of war? Probably not.
But if you can; define and describe a particular set of events, while ignoring previous, then perhaps Generation X should be more focused on events of 50 years ago; 1969 and onwards. Problem is, while pretty much everyone agrees why WW2 occurred, its more difficult to agree on why the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979, the fall of the Shah, the Iran-Iraq War, all events which have seismic effects on the world of last week. Perhaps the School Curriculum should think about (if not already) move away from WW2 towards considering the Cold War.
I'm a boomer, but don't really know about WW1 or 2. My knowledge has been gleaned from way films, comics (anyone remeber The Victor) and a little reading.
I went to a talk by Max Hastings the other day, eye opening.
So yes we should all learn.
Someone pointed out the other day.
'Come on Eileen' was released closer to the end of WW2 than today.
I went to a talk by Max Hastings the other day, eye opening.
So yes we should all learn.
Someone pointed out the other day.
'Come on Eileen' was released closer to the end of WW2 than today.
Edited by PositronicRay on Tuesday 5th November 11:15
Escapegoat said:
Fittster said:
Would the older members of society who may have had parents who took part in ww2 know much about the boer war?
I sort of thought the same, at first. But WW1 and WW2 had a truly global nature, and the effect on world history was (is!) something else completely.To understand WW2, you need to understand WW1. To understand WW1, you need to understand the Crimean War, the Franco-Prussian War, and indeed, the Boer War. You need to understand the Boer War to understand why most football grounds have a Kop, Or maybe, in your everyday life, you can be happily oblivious to Spion Kop and Ladysmith.
The Cold War had a truely global effect; should that be taught as well as WW1, WW2, or does something in the curriculum need to give? Or is the Cold War just too complex.
PositronicRay said:
I'm a boomer, but don't really know about WW1 or 2. My knowledge has been gleaned from way films, comics (anyone remeber The Victor) and a little reading.
I went to a talk by Max Hastings the other day, eye opening.
So yes we should all learn.
Someone pointed out the other day.
'Come on Eileen' was released closer to the end of WW2 than today.
Everyone should learn all their lives. Is it more important to understand events of 100 years ago at age 10 or 30?I went to a talk by Max Hastings the other day, eye opening.
So yes we should all learn.
Someone pointed out the other day.
'Come on Eileen' was released closer to the end of WW2 than today.
Edited by PositronicRay on Tuesday 5th November 11:15
kedEric Mc said:
Big fan of Mr Hastings.
I'm off to see Al Murray in Aldershot tonight - although I think he'll be chatting about more contemporary matters than World War 2.
That should be a fantastic night. Landlord of Hope and Glory.I'm off to see Al Murray in Aldershot tonight - although I think he'll be chatting about more contemporary matters than World War 2.
He is a knowledgeable chap when it comes to many things including the past.
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