National Treasures..
Discussion
.. So let's nick it:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/22/de...
Stupid thing is that they would have made a fortune if they had done the right thing, surely they should have known that.
Makes you wonder how much else out there has been stolen.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/22/de...
Stupid thing is that they would have made a fortune if they had done the right thing, surely they should have known that.
Makes you wonder how much else out there has been stolen.
This article explains the detail of what they did - it was pretty blatant that they just took the items to dealers and presumably couldn't explain how they were acquired and that they were ok to sell, and it eventually came to the attention of the local council and police:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/21/de...
I think these days if you find more than a handful of coins then it would be difficult to sell without being as scrupulous as a "proper criminal" and keeping everything off the books, but I'm sure in the past it was much easier.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/21/de...
I think these days if you find more than a handful of coins then it would be difficult to sell without being as scrupulous as a "proper criminal" and keeping everything off the books, but I'm sure in the past it was much easier.
vonuber said:
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Stupid thing is that they would have made a fortune if they had done the right thing, surely they should have known that.
From the articles, doing the right thing was not an option for them. They did not have permission to detect on the land, so when they found the hoard they were stuck. With permission they could have done a deal with the landowner, without it they had to admit to stealing, or try to sell the goods on the quiet. Stupid thing is that they would have made a fortune if they had done the right thing, surely they should have known that.
What they should have done, of course, is obtain permission before detecting, but you can judge the chances of Lord Cawley granting such permission to a couple of scruffy oiks.
Big-Bo-Beep said:
Huzzah, our perverse justice system in action, custodial sentences for a crime with no victim.
Glad these vicious, venal detectorist desperados are in stir while rapists, paedophiles and muggers out on licence stalk our streets.
I do feel safer at night, I really do.
So your happy for somebody to dig up you garden and what they finds their own yeah.....or is it only wealthy land owners who should have no rights in your world?Glad these vicious, venal detectorist desperados are in stir while rapists, paedophiles and muggers out on licence stalk our streets.
I do feel safer at night, I really do.
KrazyIvan said:
So your happy for somebody to dig up you garden and what they finds their own yeah.....or is it only wealthy land owners who should have no rights in your world?
Surely the point is that someone dopped them, yet they made no effort to find out who they were and return them...I do think the sentence is ludicrously high.
Stealing the nations heritage?
1) they almost certainly did not know the value of what they had found
2) if it had not been for them, the nation’s heritage would be still undiscovered, and possibly later destroyed by ploughing, building
6-12 months would be reasonable. 10 years is ridiculous.
Stealing the nations heritage?
1) they almost certainly did not know the value of what they had found
2) if it had not been for them, the nation’s heritage would be still undiscovered, and possibly later destroyed by ploughing, building
6-12 months would be reasonable. 10 years is ridiculous.
Ayahuasca said:
vonuber said:
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Stupid thing is that they would have made a fortune if they had done the right thing, surely they should have known that.
From the articles, doing the right thing was not an option for them. They did not have permission to detect on the land, so when they found the hoard they were stuck. With permission they could have done a deal with the landowner, without it they had to admit to stealing, or try to sell the goods on the quiet. Stupid thing is that they would have made a fortune if they had done the right thing, surely they should have known that.
What they should have done, of course, is obtain permission before detecting, but you can judge the chances of Lord Cawley granting such permission to a couple of scruffy oiks.
Did they even ask Lord Cawley ?
One solution would be to errr.... 'relocate' said treasure to somewhere else where they had an agreement - naughty I know !!
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