Prison sentences for terrorists

[Esceptico]

Prison sentences serve a number of purposes: punishment, a disincentive for crime, retribution, re-education of criminals but also to protect innocent people.

Although in many areas I probably come across as a bleeding heart liberal, I think that for certain categories of criminal eg terrorists and paedophiles, the safety of the public should take precedence over all else including their right to be released. They should need to be able to prove they will no longer be a danger to others and they shouldn’t be given the benefit of doubt.

[Ratski83]

I agree perhaps the Prevent scheme needs to go on a field trip to China to see how they deal with the threat of radical Islam, from what I saw on a recent BBC documentary it certainly seems more effective than taking them on day trips out in the community with an ankle tag fitted.

[randlemarcus]

Ratski83 said:

I agree perhaps the Prevent scheme needs to go on a field trip to China to see how they deal with the threat of radical Islam, from what I saw on a recent BBC documentary it certainly seems more effective than taking them on day trips out in the community with an ankle tag fitted.

Disappearing the family of protestors, and the entire community is not a good look, either for the Communist Party of China, nor you.

[Smollet]

Perhaps a minimum of 25years for anyone involved in a terrorist attack and life with no parole for those with a fatal outcome. I'm not in favour of bringing back the death penalty. Hopefully that might happen before the courts get involved as happened yesterday..

[Ratski83]

Well unfortunately the softly softly approach doesn’t seem to be working. Time and time again after each and every attack we here the same stories. Known to police, on the terror watch list, referred to prevent and now a former jihadi on early release with an ankle tag.

The only way to truly safeguard the public is to remove the threat in it’s entirety.

[SCEtoAUX]

Death sentence. Job done.

No ifs, no buts. The political party that brings this in has my vote.

[Tom Logan]

SCEtoAUX said:

Death sentence. Job done.

And... in that case eternal paradise beckons.

Allahu Akbar, kuffar.

Lock them up for life, stop pussyfooting around with parole/tags.

[spaximus]

Tom Logan said:

And... in that case eternal paradise beckons.

Allahu Akbar, kuffar.

Lock them up for life, stop pussyfooting around with parole/tags.

That may be the case, but they will never reoffend, never spend time in jail converting others, never produce offspring to follow on from them. I have always been a supporter of the death penalty and of longer sentencing in general especially these days with the scientific support of evidence to avoid some of the errors in the past.

At the very least there needs to be a full review of how the release scheme works. Here was a man convicted of plotting to blow up the Stock Exchange and yet they felt okay to release him????

[Piha]

spaximus said:

That may be the case, but they will never reoffend, never spend time in jail converting others, never produce offspring to follow on from them. I have always been a supporter of the death penalty and of longer sentencing in general especially these days with the scientific support of evidence to avoid some of the errors in the past.

At the very least there needs to be a full review of how the release scheme works. Here was a man convicted of plotting to blow up the Stock Exchange and yet they felt okay to release him????

How does you enthusiasm for killing people work when we would eventually execute an innocent person? Do you remember the Guildford 4? Only after conviction and sentencing were they were rightly found to be innocent and had their convictions overturned and released.

[98elise]

This is why I'm very much in favour of something similar to the 3 strikes policy in the USA.

You have two opportunities to go straight, then a very long mandatory sentence.

[Troubleatmill]

Unmarked grave with your body enclosed in a pig skinned body bag with pigs cock stuck up your arse and down your throat.

It won’t be a deterrent to all

But it insures they will never be accepted in Heaven by their sky fairy.

[aeropilot]

Piha said:

spaximus said:

That may be the case, but they will never reoffend, never spend time in jail converting others, never produce offspring to follow on from them. I have always been a supporter of the death penalty and of longer sentencing in general especially these days with the scientific support of evidence to avoid some of the errors in the past.

At the very least there needs to be a full review of how the release scheme works. Here was a man convicted of plotting to blow up the Stock Exchange and yet they felt okay to release him????

How does you enthusiasm for killing people work when we would eventually execute an innocent person?

What about the 2 innocent people now lying on a mortuary slab today because this piece of scum was allowed back onto our streets by a bunch of gullible idiots...?

[bitchstewie]

Let's assume that with any form of capital punishment some people will always be convicted and executed wrongfully.

To those who advocate restoring the death penalty, what's an acceptable rate for you?

[ChevyChase77]

It is a joke that you can go to prison in 2012 for plotting to blow up the London stock exchange and leave bombs in pub toilets in Stoke-on-Trent and be let out and back on the streets within 6 years.

[Countdown]

SCEtoAUX said:

Death sentence. Job done.

No ifs, no buts. The political party that brings this in has my vote.

Especially for suicide bombers. If the death penalty doesn’t deter them, nothing will.

[Troubleatmill]

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SCEtoAUX said:

Death sentence. Job done.

No ifs, no buts. The political party that brings this in has my vote.

Especially for suicide bombers. If the death penalty doesn’t deter them, nothing will.

You did see my pig skin comment above.

I imagine being denied seeing you God will be a deterrent for some.

[can't remember]

A death sentence to someone who believes in martyrdom is a positive encouragement.

[ChevyChase77]

Just seen this on Twitter.

Usman Khan was convicted of plotting to blow up the Stock Exchange. Five of his convicted accomplices are also now on parole.

Mo Chowdhury - RELEASED
Shah Rahman - RELEASED
Gurukanth Desai - RELEASED
Omar Latif - RELEASED
Nazam Hussain - Release 2020
Mohibur Rahman - RELEASED

[Countdown]

Troubleatmill said:

You did see my pig skin comment above.

I imagine being denied seeing you God will be a deterrent for some.

I did see your comment and, to be honest, it didnt make a lot of sense either.

You said it’s NOT going to be a deterrent. In that case, why do it?

You suggest its not going to get them into Paradise. Says who? I’m not aware of any teachings in the Koran that say “If your corpse is wrapped in pigmeat you’re not coming in”. Which again suggests it won’t be a deterrent, ergo why do it? [And given that a suicide bomber is likely to be in more pieces than a 10,000 piece jigsaw, who is going to be tasked with putting him back together in order to then wrap him in bacon]. And what happens if the Terrorist isn’t Muslim?

I actually think our current laws and penalties are good enough. Incorporating some EDL-type wk-fantasies into Law is likely to make things worse rather than better.

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Just removing the early release BS and getting them, plus some other types of crims, to serve the sentence they were given in the first place would be a step in the right direction.