A mum died...
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Saleen836

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12,301 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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After waiting 6 hours on a pavement for an ambulance to arrive....
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-12-19/mum-died...

I'm struggling to understand why no one helped her up and either drove her to the hospital or called for a taxi to take her confused

Jasandjules

72,036 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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FFS.

KingNothing

3,309 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Last time one of my friends broke their ankle, we picked them up and took them ourselves, could have been waiting for 6 hours as well due to low priority of injury.

valiant

13,492 posts

184 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Should be asking why there seems to be a shortage of ambulances and crews...

i4got

5,928 posts

102 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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It's certainly curious this incident hasn't received the viral publicity and disgust that last week's child on A&E floor received.

Down and out

2,700 posts

88 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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It doesn't help when people are calling ambulances for a scratch on their nose or a chipped toenail. On top of that there's the loonies that ring up 50 times a day.

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,078 posts

193 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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While I’d rather we had more ambulance crews than useless non-jobs in the public sector, I do wonder why they didn’t just take her via taxi or car? It’s not fking difficult.


pghstochaj

3,516 posts

143 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Down and out said:
It doesn't help when people are calling ambulances for a scratch on their nose or a chipped toenail. On top of that there's the loonies that ring up 50 times a day.
That’s nothing to do with it. The call was taken, it was a lack of ambulance facilities (allegedly related to a lack of hospital facilities) that is the cause of this. When a call handler has a call about a chipped toe nail they deal with that as appropriately, they certainly wouldn’t be the same priority as this lady for getting an ambulance.

We once had a young fit man chip his ankle on one of our construction sites. It was minor (still resulted in a RIDDOR) but 999 was called for help as we couldn’t move him. Normally this would be walking wounded but the effect it had on the young man was profound. The shock of the situation caused him to enter a distressed panic and it was very difficult to move him from the location to a car. I can therefore see how a lady who has fallen in this way could easily get into trouble.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

123 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Wales NHS, the lack of Ambos is ridiculous in Mid & South Wales, not so sure about the north.

No idea why she wasn't either put in a car and taken, or limped/helped back in to her house.

I'll take a guess that she was huge and couldn't get herself up or be helped up.

croyde

25,702 posts

254 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Fooking hell. I had post heart attack arrhythmia and chest pains. I got the bus to hospital.

Why did no one take her in their car, or a taxi.

Got to be more to the story.

nelly1

5,663 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Austerity!

Tory cuts!

Etc...

rolleyes

mondeoman

11,430 posts

290 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Saleen836 said:
After waiting 6 hours on a pavement for an ambulance to arrive....
https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2019-12-19/mum-died...

I'm struggling to understand why no one helped her up and either drove her to the hospital or called for a taxi to take her confused
All that effort to get blankets under her, and all the coats etc, but no-one thought to order a taxi or get a car?? Really doesn't make sense.

Murph7355

40,984 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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valiant said:
Should be asking why there seems to be a shortage of ambulances and crews...
There are many things we should be asking about that story... That may be one. But certainly not the first...

Don Roque

18,232 posts

183 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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i4got said:
It's certainly curious this incident hasn't received the viral publicity and disgust that last week's child on A&E floor received.
Yes, you could almost imagine that the earlier incident was a sham, spun for political gain...

i4got

5,928 posts

102 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Don Roque said:
i4got said:
It's certainly curious this incident hasn't received the viral publicity and disgust that last week's child on A&E floor received.
Yes, you could almost imagine that the earlier incident was a sham, spun for political gain...
It's also probably a coincidence that the first incident happened under Conservative's NHS England and the latest under Labour run NHS Wales.

Jasandjules

72,036 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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valiant said:
Should be asking why there seems to be a shortage of ambulances and crews...
Yes, why are there so many managers and so much waste? I mean, sure it is vital to have lots of art in the grounds etc but still....

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

123 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Jasandjules said:
valiant said:
Should be asking why there seems to be a shortage of ambulances and crews...
Yes, why are there so many managers and so much waste? I mean, sure it is vital to have lots of art in the grounds etc but still....
We rescued a guy off the hill, fractured elbow, smashed and cut wrist, head injury with short term amnesia. They wouldn't commit to an Ambo being roadside within four hours, so we drove him there ourselves in about twenty minutes.

When we were offloading, both the crews from the two Ambos we parked next to thanked u for taking a job off their slate. They were sat there doing nothing. Don't know why they weren't tasked but it wasn't for lack of resources in that instance.

It's been an eye opener getting involved in the care chain at the sharp end. Also very frustrating at times.

9xxNick

1,133 posts

238 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Don Roque said:
Yes, you could almost imagine that the earlier incident was a sham, spun for political gain...
I was in West Yorkshire last weekend, and we met a relative of my wife who's in a senior medical position at the hospital in question. She says the consensus among the staff there is that it was set up for the picture.

evoivboy

985 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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It's welsh you Tard

Not-The-Messiah

3,648 posts

105 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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9xxNick said:
I was in West Yorkshire last weekend, and we met a relative of my wife who's in a senior medical position at the hospital in question. She says the consensus among the staff there is that it was set up for the picture.
Well if I now send a team of investigative journalist out to track you down. And they find out you don't know someone who works there. By most of the medias logic that will prove without doubt that what you suggest happened at the hospital isn't true. But even better I could then spin that into how fake news is influenceing people. It's exactly what the media did.

Off course if I did find you made it up it doesn't prove you where wrong about the episode at the hospital it just proves you lie and you don't know someone at the hospital and what happened. The only way I could prove you was incorrect would be to go to the hospital and do a investigate there. Find out how many beds there was, how many staff, how many patients and so on.

But no all I need to find is a random statement on the internet was a lie. Get a single statement from the hospital and of cause that will always be truthful and honest. Its the equivalent of idiots who find a few spelling mistakes on a forum discussion and think that wins them the argument.