Transgender rights
Discussion
Given the court verdict is anyone brave enough to comment?
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/dec/19/jk-r...
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/dec/19/jk-r...
J K Rowling will probably be hounded for the rest of her publishing life by these Trans-terrorists.
The woman is allowed to have an opinion that's the beauty of freedom of speech. Although it's evident that the militant left don't really do freedom of speech unless of course it aligns with their side of the debate.
Trans people always did have the same human rights as everyone else but you can't change genetics and biology.
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Whether mentally you identify as male or female is entirely up to you but don't try and change millions of years of evidence and centuries or scientific studies by trying to tell me black is now white
The woman is allowed to have an opinion that's the beauty of freedom of speech. Although it's evident that the militant left don't really do freedom of speech unless of course it aligns with their side of the debate.
Trans people always did have the same human rights as everyone else but you can't change genetics and biology.
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Whether mentally you identify as male or female is entirely up to you but don't try and change millions of years of evidence and centuries or scientific studies by trying to tell me black is now white
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Freedom of speech is a myth, as the Tribunal judgement shows.
You can only say what you like within certain deemed acceptable parameters.
Luckily I'm not employed by a bunch of 'woke' nutters so if anyone takes offence to my opinion well that's not my concern.You can only say what you like within certain deemed acceptable parameters.
It's about time someone high profile such as J K Rowling spoke up against this nonsense. It's getting worse with people calling themselves 'They' and 'it' when they aren't even trans just trying to seek some attention.
Kids these days must be confused as hell with all this gender bending going on around them not to mention how confusing Biology classes in school must be.
Edited by EarlofDrift on Friday 20th December 02:32
Gromm said:
EarlofDrift said:
J K Rowling will probably be hounded for the rest of her publishing life by these Trans-terrorists.
The woman is allowed to have an opinion that's the beauty of freedom of speech. Although it's evident that the militant left don't really do freedom of speech unless of course it aligns with their side of the debate.
Trans people always did have the same human rights as everyone else but you can't change genetics and biology.
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Whether mentally you identify as male or female is entirely up to you but don't try and change millions of years of evidence and centuries or scientific studies by trying to tell me black is now white
Not strictly true, there is, I believe, a tapeworm which exhibits male and female features - a hermaphrodite and some fishes which can change sex. Just saying.The woman is allowed to have an opinion that's the beauty of freedom of speech. Although it's evident that the militant left don't really do freedom of speech unless of course it aligns with their side of the debate.
Trans people always did have the same human rights as everyone else but you can't change genetics and biology.
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Whether mentally you identify as male or female is entirely up to you but don't try and change millions of years of evidence and centuries or scientific studies by trying to tell me black is now white
EarlofDrift said:
J K Rowling will probably be hounded for the rest of her publishing life by these Trans-terrorists.
The woman is allowed to have an opinion that's the beauty of freedom of speech. Although it's evident that the militant left don't really do freedom of speech unless of course it aligns with their side of the debate.
Trans people always did have the same human rights as everyone else but you can't change genetics and biology.
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Whether mentally you identify as male or female is entirely up to you but don't try and change millions of years of evidence and centuries or scientific studies by trying to tell me black is now white
The irony of your comment is that the word “gender” used to be synonymous with “sex” ie biologically male and female, but was changed (mainly by feminists) to mean something different, being a social and cultural construct. Apparently now “sex” is also a social construct but somehow different from gender. I have to admit to being a bit lost.The woman is allowed to have an opinion that's the beauty of freedom of speech. Although it's evident that the militant left don't really do freedom of speech unless of course it aligns with their side of the debate.
Trans people always did have the same human rights as everyone else but you can't change genetics and biology.
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Whether mentally you identify as male or female is entirely up to you but don't try and change millions of years of evidence and centuries or scientific studies by trying to tell me black is now white
EarlofDrift said:
Gromm said:
EarlofDrift said:
J K Rowling will probably be hounded for the rest of her publishing life by these Trans-terrorists.
The woman is allowed to have an opinion that's the beauty of freedom of speech. Although it's evident that the militant left don't really do freedom of speech unless of course it aligns with their side of the debate.
Trans people always did have the same human rights as everyone else but you can't change genetics and biology.
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Whether mentally you identify as male or female is entirely up to you but don't try and change millions of years of evidence and centuries or scientific studies by trying to tell me black is now white
Not strictly true, there is, I believe, a tapeworm which exhibits male and female features - a hermaphrodite and some fishes which can change sex. Just saying.The woman is allowed to have an opinion that's the beauty of freedom of speech. Although it's evident that the militant left don't really do freedom of speech unless of course it aligns with their side of the debate.
Trans people always did have the same human rights as everyone else but you can't change genetics and biology.
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Whether mentally you identify as male or female is entirely up to you but don't try and change millions of years of evidence and centuries or scientific studies by trying to tell me black is now white
Edited by Gromm on Friday 20th December 03:39
Edited by Gromm on Friday 20th December 03:45
Esceptico said:
The irony of your comment is that the word “gender” used to be synonymous with “sex” ie biologically male and female, but was changed (mainly by feminists) to mean something different, being a social and cultural construct. Apparently now “sex” is also a social construct but somehow different from gender. I have to admit to being a bit lost.
Do you mind me asking how you identify as bit lost?
EarlofDrift said:
Last time I looked I wasn't a tapeworm or a fish whose genetic makeup is very different to a humans. In fact I'd be amazed if a tapeworm or fish had the mental capacity to decide to transition of its own accord.
Hey, I identify as a tapeworm! A really butch one, mind
Remind me again what harm transgender people have done? Live and let live.
JKR's position doesn't include much detail. This person has gone beyond expressing an opinion, and instead has posted several provocative items (including a cartoon).
JKR's position doesn't include much detail. This person has gone beyond expressing an opinion, and instead has posted several provocative items (including a cartoon).
EarlofDrift said:
There are only two genders, male and female. You can call yourself whatever gender you want but genetically your still the same one you were born as.
Remind me again what gender and genetics have to do with eachother?Thales said:
Transgenderism should be treated as a mental illness. This nonsense will be the end of us.
Given all the abnormalities that can develop in a human being from the moment of conception to death, why do you think that it is impossible for the brain (as in perception of gender) to not match the body?Isn't the issue not that it cannot occur, but can it occur in the numbers that those affected and involved would have us believe?
I'm finding it deliciously schadenfreudic that it's JK Rowling 
She loves getting 'woke', trying to rewrite history to seem more inclusive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxpwlKRQ2U
Sums it up really

She loves getting 'woke', trying to rewrite history to seem more inclusive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxpwlKRQ2U
Sums it up really

It is interesting the way that Trangender and the associated rights group have decided both sides of the debate.
Not only are the telling us CIS Men what is offensive to them, they are also telling women that calling them Terf’s isn’t meant as an offensive term.
Personally I loathe being referred to a CIS Man, what is wrong with ‘man’
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