London Gang Murders. Drug Users To Blame?
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Maybe peer culture and parenting have a part to play as well. After all not every teenager in London becomes a gang member and drug dealer.
The politics of stop search perhaps relevant as well.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/11/jaden-...
Christmas Eve murder, Battersea, originally from Kosovo from an Albanian community, turns out to be one of Sweden's most wanted, with connections to Malmö drug gangs. This sod was being hunted in Sweden more than 11 years ago.
I have sympathy only for his kid, no one deserves to see a parent or family gunned down, as for the rest, not so much there despite season of good will. Sorry if it offends.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/27/batter...
I have sympathy only for his kid, no one deserves to see a parent or family gunned down, as for the rest, not so much there despite season of good will. Sorry if it offends.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/27/batter...
You can’t pin it on one factor and then say ‘That’s the reason, fix that and all will be well’.
Parenting, adequate policing, government policies, poor housing, poor schooling, underfunded and collapsing justice system and generally s
t life chances all play a part as well as the end users who are not always your stereotypical crack heads but middle class types with every opportunity afforded to them but like a few lines or the odd puff at weekends that drive the demand.
It’s like those hard of thinking types who solely blame Mayor Khan for the rise of knife crime in London as if changing mayor will magically solve the issue. There is no one single cause but a myriad of different reasons that will take a all-encompassing approach to solve - if it can be solved at all.
Parenting, adequate policing, government policies, poor housing, poor schooling, underfunded and collapsing justice system and generally s
t life chances all play a part as well as the end users who are not always your stereotypical crack heads but middle class types with every opportunity afforded to them but like a few lines or the odd puff at weekends that drive the demand.It’s like those hard of thinking types who solely blame Mayor Khan for the rise of knife crime in London as if changing mayor will magically solve the issue. There is no one single cause but a myriad of different reasons that will take a all-encompassing approach to solve - if it can be solved at all.
Thankyou4calling said:
Number of murders in London is well below the long term average.
If you look at the last couple of years it’s gone up but to no where near the levels of previous years.
24/7 news and social media mean that events get far more coverage than they used to If you look at the last couple of years it’s gone up but to no where near the levels of previous years.
20 years ago London was far more violent and lawless ... but it wasn’t widely reported.
Burwood said:
Was this boy innocent or a drug mule? The media want to paint him as an angel Such that it’s not easy to get to the detail.
The report mentions he was attacked whilst dealing drugs so I suspect that he wasn't entirely innocent.When his mother blamed drug dealers it wasn't clear whether she was including or excluding her son.
valiant said:
You can’t pin it on one factor and then say ‘That’s the reason, fix that and all will be well’.
No, but you can list several factors that are the main components, and one of them is too many peoplecrammed into urban environments. You wont see this sort of stuff in Durness or Gairloch, but head into
the big conurbations and its a different story.
The problem is there isn't going to be any sudden mass reductions in the number of people in big
cities in the UK, quite the opposite probably, therefore gang murders, or virtually any type of murders
are not going to stop, or be stopped, any time soon, they will continue unabated, regardless.
For anyone that fears being involved there is really only one option available, move elsewhere.
Earthdweller said:
Thankyou4calling said:
Number of murders in London is well below the long term average.
If you look at the last couple of years it’s gone up but to no where near the levels of previous years.
24/7 news and social media mean that events get far more coverage than they used to If you look at the last couple of years it’s gone up but to no where near the levels of previous years.
20 years ago London was far more violent and lawless ... but it wasn’t widely reported.
Far far worse yet few would think it or believe it.
Not dissimilar to road fatalities. Many think it’s more dangerous than ever.
Same with vehicle theft.
With advantage to be gained from huge headlines why bother with the facts. Few read that far.
Agammemnon said:
Burwood said:
Was this boy innocent or a drug mule? The media want to paint him as an angel Such that it’s not easy to get to the detail.
The report mentions he was attacked whilst dealing drugs so I suspect that he wasn't entirely innocent.When his mother blamed drug dealers it wasn't clear whether she was including or excluding her son.
Elatino1 said:
No, not the drug dealers. Apparently it is the "drug users fault". Even though thousands of big and small towns have drug users but don't have gang stabbing problems.
Article said:
......... Jaden, who was dealing drugs for the Beaumont Crew.............
“There’s lots of people to blame. It’s the groomers, it’s the dealers."
Based on this I'm pretty certain she blamed the dealers- what's uncertain is whether she comprehends that her son is one of them.“There’s lots of people to blame. It’s the groomers, it’s the dealers."
Agammemnon said:
Elatino1 said:
No, not the drug dealers. Apparently it is the "drug users fault". Even though thousands of big and small towns have drug users but don't have gang stabbing problems.
Article said:
......... Jaden, who was dealing drugs for the Beaumont Crew.............
“There’s lots of people to blame. It’s the groomers, it’s the dealers."
Based on this I'm pretty certain she blamed the dealers- what's uncertain is whether she comprehends that her son is one of them.“There’s lots of people to blame. It’s the groomers, it’s the dealers."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/11/jaden-...
Jaden Moodie: Mother of murdered teenager condemns drug users for fuelling 'killing spree'
Bloody immigrants.
London was so peaceful till they all came around.
Oh for the 1950s/60s halcyon gang-free crime-free days.
https://youtu.be/Z57GHQxCPNw
London was so peaceful till they all came around.
Oh for the 1950s/60s halcyon gang-free crime-free days.
https://youtu.be/Z57GHQxCPNw
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