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This for me fly's over the top of anything else that is happening in the UK today. It has just been reported that In the last year at least 19,000
children have been sexually groomed in England alone, although it's reckoned to be actually much higher.
This is just staggering, it is beyond belief that this is going on in the UK, I feel stunned after reading this, disgusted
that such depravity is happening on an epidemic scale like this, and not only continues every single day but is
increasing to these type of figures.
This is Children we are talking about here, someones child, how on earth are we allowing this to happen?
This needs sorted, this so desperately needs sorted. This has to stop, whatever it takes we cant sit back and let this continue,
If we cant protect innocent children from this type of evil, we have failed them, failed them on an epic scale. This should be
a national emergency, its currently a national disgrace.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gr...
children have been sexually groomed in England alone, although it's reckoned to be actually much higher.
This is just staggering, it is beyond belief that this is going on in the UK, I feel stunned after reading this, disgusted
that such depravity is happening on an epidemic scale like this, and not only continues every single day but is
increasing to these type of figures.
This is Children we are talking about here, someones child, how on earth are we allowing this to happen?
This needs sorted, this so desperately needs sorted. This has to stop, whatever it takes we cant sit back and let this continue,
If we cant protect innocent children from this type of evil, we have failed them, failed them on an epic scale. This should be
a national emergency, its currently a national disgrace.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/gr...
XCP said:
I suspect that this has pretty much always been the case. In the past though it wasn't called grooming, and it wasn't talked about so much.
And was far, far more difficult without the digital connectivity we have now. Sadly it can’t be denied that it’s more rife now due to that and definitely a negative aspect of modern tech.WonkeyDonkey said:
And nothing will get done as people are scared of being called racist if they go after the most likely culprits.
Perhaps you are too young to remember the gangs in the 60s that were selling very young girls for sex and perhaps you have forgotten the issues in the Anglican and Catholic faith of abuse of young boys and some girls. Then don’t forget those media types now dead or locked up, not forgetting that nice chap Paul Raven.
There are gangs of all colours and creeds still pimping under age girls.
Oh I nearly forgot the children’s homes throughout the country run by completely white personnel back in the 60s, 70s and into the 80s.
Why do you focus on a particular colour or race?
Edited by Nickgnome on Sunday 29th December 17:59
rossub said:
XCP said:
I suspect that this has pretty much always been the case. In the past though it wasn't called grooming, and it wasn't talked about so much.
And was far, far more difficult without the digital connectivity we have now. Sadly it can’t be denied that it’s more rife now due to that and definitely a negative aspect of modern tech.
Nickgnome said:
WonkeyDonkey said:
And nothing will get done as people are scared of being called racist if they go after the most likely culprits.
Perhaps you are too young to remember the gangs in the 60s that were selling very young girls for sex and perhaps you have forgotten the issues in the Anglican and Catholic faith of abuse of young boys and some girls. Then don’t forget those media types now dead or locked up, not forgetting that nice chap Paul Raven.
There are gangs of all colours and creeds still pimping under age girls.
Oh I nearly forgot the children’s homes throughout the country run by completely white personnel back in the 60s, 70s and into the 80s.
Why do you focus on a particular colour or race?
Edited by Nickgnome on Sunday 29th December 17:59
I heard an interesting interview on Radio 4 a while back. It was given by an expert used by the NSPCC.
What he said was by taking statistics such as surveys where a sample of the general population were aked if they suffered sex abuse it seems that around 4% of people said they had.
When they checked. It turned out 4% of priests and deacons from the Catholic Church have been accused of abusing children between the 1950s and 2002.
To see if this was statistically high further investigations were undertaken which revealed there is a constant level of offence that occurs throughout society.
Thus if you look at other Christian religious clergy, non Christian religious clergy, organisations such as The Scouts, Boys Brigade, Bernardos Care Homes, The Army, The Police, Muslim taxi drivers etc etc you will find a similar rate of abuse levels.
This sets a trap in society and sadly no--one is examining or challenging child abuse close to home.
It's always others. It's easy for us, a to kick off and feel good about ourselves as we are able to lable any group we don't like as a crowd of child raping scumbags.
Are u a mad Catholic hating Scottish or Northern Irish Orange bigot? Then it's Catholic Priest, Celtic fans that are the abusers.
If u wanted to argue the other way Protestant Anglican, Presbyterian and Evalgilical members are also abusing at about 4% of membership.
If you have a thing about skyfairy worshippers and God bothered all this clerical abuse will confirm it worse suspicion.
Are you a sad, not very bright or particularly successful, left-behind, Tommy Robison type with a Facebook profile a mass of poppies, Union Jacks, George Crosses and Britain First shares? It's them fecking Muslim innit taxi drivers that are doing it.
Don't like the establishment then it's the BBC (Jimmy Saville Gary Glitter etc).
Politicians? Of course.
Police? Yup.
Turns out all the charities have a proportion banging away at the kids all over the world they are supposed to be helping out.
The army are at it too. Cadets and junior soldiers are easy targets for those in authority who fancy a bit of abusing.
Teachers? At it.
Social workers? At it.
Prison officers in young offenders institutions? At it.
Have you a big extended family? Lot of divorce and step parents amongst your brothers, sisters and cousins? More likely you have it going on in your family than any of the other groups I've just mentioned.
Things are bad. That's as in 4% of us are abusing bad. They weren't any better and may well have been considerably worse in the old days.
Think of Victorian times or any other time and it'll have been going on.
Things are actually better now because we are aware and just starting to address it......
But to really address it we have to accept it is "us" that are the problem rather than "them" and deal with the situation accordingly.
The human race is living under a very thin veneer of civilisation, a veneer so thin that its see through in some places.
We are all capable of horrible and horrific acts but it's the notion of society that puts the brakes on many of the urges and impulses.
When a serial killer is found we are confronted by this hidden side, we consider ourselves better because we didn't do such acts yet if the supply of food toppled over, if the electricity supply went out and the water in our taps stopped then in less than a week people would be murdering to survive, tribal warfare would erupt and that thin veneer would be gone.
Honestly, I am surprised the figure is not higher for killings, sex crimes and theft we must be doing quite a good job of suppression of the beasts within.
We are all capable of horrible and horrific acts but it's the notion of society that puts the brakes on many of the urges and impulses.
When a serial killer is found we are confronted by this hidden side, we consider ourselves better because we didn't do such acts yet if the supply of food toppled over, if the electricity supply went out and the water in our taps stopped then in less than a week people would be murdering to survive, tribal warfare would erupt and that thin veneer would be gone.
Honestly, I am surprised the figure is not higher for killings, sex crimes and theft we must be doing quite a good job of suppression of the beasts within.
Edited by Getragdogleg on Sunday 29th December 18:25
Tannedbaldhead said:
4% of immigrants will be up to no good with kids.
I heard an interesting interview on Radio 4 a while back. It was given by an expert used by the NSPCC.
What he said was by taking statistics such as surveys where a sample of the general population were aked if they suffered sex abuse it seems that around 4% of people said they had.
When they checked. It turned out 4% of priests and deacons from the Catholic Church have been accused of abusing children between the 1950s and 2002.
To see if this was statistically high further investigations were undertaken which revealed there is a constant level of offence that occurs throughout society.
Thus if you look at other Christian religious clergy, non Christian religious clergy, organisations such as The Scouts, Boys Brigade, Bernardos Care Homes, The Army, The Police, Muslim taxi drivers etc etc you will find a similar rate of abuse levels.
This sets a trap in society and sadly no--one is examining or challenging child abuse close to home.
It's always others. It's easy for us, a to kick off and feel good about ourselves as we are able to lable any group we don't like as a crowd of child raping scumbags.
Are u a mad Catholic hating Scottish or Northern Irish Orange bigot? Then it's Catholic Priest, Celtic fans that are the abusers.
If u wanted to argue the other way Protestant Anglican, Presbyterian and Evalgilical members are also abusing at about 4% of membership.
If you have a thing about skyfairy worshippers and God bothered all this clerical abuse will confirm it worse suspicion.
Are you a sad, not very bright or particularly successful, left-behind, Tommy Robison type with a Facebook profile a mass of poppies, Union Jacks, George Crosses and Britain First shares? It's them fecking Muslim innit taxi drivers that are doing it.
Don't like the establishment then it's the BBC (Jimmy Saville Gary Glitter etc).
Politicians? Of course.
Police? Yup.
Turns out all the charities have a proportion banging away at the kids all over the world they are supposed to be helping out.
The army are at it too. Cadets and junior soldiers are easy targets for those in authority who fancy a bit of abusing.
Teachers? At it.
Social workers? At it.
Prison officers in young offenders institutions? At it.
Have you a big extended family? Lot of divorce and step parents amongst your brothers, sisters and cousins? More likely you have it going on in your family than any of the other groups I've just mentioned.
Things are bad. That's as in 4% of us are abusing bad. They weren't any better and may well have been considerably worse in the old days.
Think of Victorian times or any other time and it'll have been going on.
Things are actually better now because we are aware and just starting to address it......
But to really address it we have to accept it is "us" that are the problem rather than "them" and deal with the situation accordingly.
This is a really good post I heard an interesting interview on Radio 4 a while back. It was given by an expert used by the NSPCC.
What he said was by taking statistics such as surveys where a sample of the general population were aked if they suffered sex abuse it seems that around 4% of people said they had.
When they checked. It turned out 4% of priests and deacons from the Catholic Church have been accused of abusing children between the 1950s and 2002.
To see if this was statistically high further investigations were undertaken which revealed there is a constant level of offence that occurs throughout society.
Thus if you look at other Christian religious clergy, non Christian religious clergy, organisations such as The Scouts, Boys Brigade, Bernardos Care Homes, The Army, The Police, Muslim taxi drivers etc etc you will find a similar rate of abuse levels.
This sets a trap in society and sadly no--one is examining or challenging child abuse close to home.
It's always others. It's easy for us, a to kick off and feel good about ourselves as we are able to lable any group we don't like as a crowd of child raping scumbags.
Are u a mad Catholic hating Scottish or Northern Irish Orange bigot? Then it's Catholic Priest, Celtic fans that are the abusers.
If u wanted to argue the other way Protestant Anglican, Presbyterian and Evalgilical members are also abusing at about 4% of membership.
If you have a thing about skyfairy worshippers and God bothered all this clerical abuse will confirm it worse suspicion.
Are you a sad, not very bright or particularly successful, left-behind, Tommy Robison type with a Facebook profile a mass of poppies, Union Jacks, George Crosses and Britain First shares? It's them fecking Muslim innit taxi drivers that are doing it.
Don't like the establishment then it's the BBC (Jimmy Saville Gary Glitter etc).
Politicians? Of course.
Police? Yup.
Turns out all the charities have a proportion banging away at the kids all over the world they are supposed to be helping out.
The army are at it too. Cadets and junior soldiers are easy targets for those in authority who fancy a bit of abusing.
Teachers? At it.
Social workers? At it.
Prison officers in young offenders institutions? At it.
Have you a big extended family? Lot of divorce and step parents amongst your brothers, sisters and cousins? More likely you have it going on in your family than any of the other groups I've just mentioned.
Things are bad. That's as in 4% of us are abusing bad. They weren't any better and may well have been considerably worse in the old days.
Think of Victorian times or any other time and it'll have been going on.
Things are actually better now because we are aware and just starting to address it......
But to really address it we have to accept it is "us" that are the problem rather than "them" and deal with the situation accordingly.
XCP said:
I suspect that this has pretty much always been the case. In the past though it wasn't called grooming, and it wasn't talked about so much.
XCP said:
Family are the most likely culprits.
Indeed. My mum was abused by the closest friend of her parents. He got her trust, and then a job in London (1960s) and gave her a lift every day, putting his hand on her knee / up her skirt whenever the car stopped. Brooking10 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
4% of immigrants will be up to no good with kids.
I heard an interesting interview on Radio 4 a while back. It was given by an expert used by the NSPCC.
What he said was by taking statistics such as surveys where a sample of the general population were aked if they suffered sex abuse it seems that around 4% of people said they had.
When they checked. It turned out 4% of priests and deacons from the Catholic Church have been accused of abusing children between the 1950s and 2002.
To see if this was statistically high further investigations were undertaken which revealed there is a constant level of offence that occurs throughout society.
Thus if you look at other Christian religious clergy, non Christian religious clergy, organisations such as The Scouts, Boys Brigade, Bernardos Care Homes, The Army, The Police, Muslim taxi drivers etc etc you will find a similar rate of abuse levels.
This sets a trap in society and sadly no--one is examining or challenging child abuse close to home.
It's always others. It's easy for us, a to kick off and feel good about ourselves as we are able to lable any group we don't like as a crowd of child raping scumbags.
Are u a mad Catholic hating Scottish or Northern Irish Orange bigot? Then it's Catholic Priest, Celtic fans that are the abusers.
If u wanted to argue the other way Protestant Anglican, Presbyterian and Evalgilical members are also abusing at about 4% of membership.
If you have a thing about skyfairy worshippers and God bothered all this clerical abuse will confirm it worse suspicion.
Are you a sad, not very bright or particularly successful, left-behind, Tommy Robison type with a Facebook profile a mass of poppies, Union Jacks, George Crosses and Britain First shares? It's them fecking Muslim innit taxi drivers that are doing it.
Don't like the establishment then it's the BBC (Jimmy Saville Gary Glitter etc).
Politicians? Of course.
Police? Yup.
Turns out all the charities have a proportion banging away at the kids all over the world they are supposed to be helping out.
The army are at it too. Cadets and junior soldiers are easy targets for those in authority who fancy a bit of abusing.
Teachers? At it.
Social workers? At it.
Prison officers in young offenders institutions? At it.
Have you a big extended family? Lot of divorce and step parents amongst your brothers, sisters and cousins? More likely you have it going on in your family than any of the other groups I've just mentioned.
Things are bad. That's as in 4% of us are abusing bad. They weren't any better and may well have been considerably worse in the old days.
Think of Victorian times or any other time and it'll have been going on.
Things are actually better now because we are aware and just starting to address it......
But to really address it we have to accept it is "us" that are the problem rather than "them" and deal with the situation accordingly.
This is a really good post I heard an interesting interview on Radio 4 a while back. It was given by an expert used by the NSPCC.
What he said was by taking statistics such as surveys where a sample of the general population were aked if they suffered sex abuse it seems that around 4% of people said they had.
When they checked. It turned out 4% of priests and deacons from the Catholic Church have been accused of abusing children between the 1950s and 2002.
To see if this was statistically high further investigations were undertaken which revealed there is a constant level of offence that occurs throughout society.
Thus if you look at other Christian religious clergy, non Christian religious clergy, organisations such as The Scouts, Boys Brigade, Bernardos Care Homes, The Army, The Police, Muslim taxi drivers etc etc you will find a similar rate of abuse levels.
This sets a trap in society and sadly no--one is examining or challenging child abuse close to home.
It's always others. It's easy for us, a to kick off and feel good about ourselves as we are able to lable any group we don't like as a crowd of child raping scumbags.
Are u a mad Catholic hating Scottish or Northern Irish Orange bigot? Then it's Catholic Priest, Celtic fans that are the abusers.
If u wanted to argue the other way Protestant Anglican, Presbyterian and Evalgilical members are also abusing at about 4% of membership.
If you have a thing about skyfairy worshippers and God bothered all this clerical abuse will confirm it worse suspicion.
Are you a sad, not very bright or particularly successful, left-behind, Tommy Robison type with a Facebook profile a mass of poppies, Union Jacks, George Crosses and Britain First shares? It's them fecking Muslim innit taxi drivers that are doing it.
Don't like the establishment then it's the BBC (Jimmy Saville Gary Glitter etc).
Politicians? Of course.
Police? Yup.
Turns out all the charities have a proportion banging away at the kids all over the world they are supposed to be helping out.
The army are at it too. Cadets and junior soldiers are easy targets for those in authority who fancy a bit of abusing.
Teachers? At it.
Social workers? At it.
Prison officers in young offenders institutions? At it.
Have you a big extended family? Lot of divorce and step parents amongst your brothers, sisters and cousins? More likely you have it going on in your family than any of the other groups I've just mentioned.
Things are bad. That's as in 4% of us are abusing bad. They weren't any better and may well have been considerably worse in the old days.
Think of Victorian times or any other time and it'll have been going on.
Things are actually better now because we are aware and just starting to address it......
But to really address it we have to accept it is "us" that are the problem rather than "them" and deal with the situation accordingly.
Tannedbaldhead said:
4% of immigrants will be up to no good with kids.
I heard an interesting interview on Radio 4 a while back. It was given by an expert used by the NSPCC.
What he said was by taking statistics such as surveys where a sample of the general population were aked if they suffered sex abuse it seems that around 4% of people said they had.
When they checked. It turned out 4% of priests and deacons from the Catholic Church have been accused of abusing children between the 1950s and 2002.
To see if this was statistically high further investigations were undertaken which revealed there is a constant level of offence that occurs throughout society.
Thus if you look at other Christian religious clergy, non Christian religious clergy, organisations such as The Scouts, Boys Brigade, Bernardos Care Homes, The Army, The Police, Muslim taxi drivers etc etc you will find a similar rate of abuse levels.
This sets a trap in society and sadly no--one is examining or challenging child abuse close to home.
It's always others. It's easy for us, a to kick off and feel good about ourselves as we are able to lable any group we don't like as a crowd of child raping scumbags.
Are u a mad Catholic hating Scottish or Northern Irish Orange bigot? Then it's Catholic Priest, Celtic fans that are the abusers.
If u wanted to argue the other way Protestant Anglican, Presbyterian and Evalgilical members are also abusing at about 4% of membership.
If you have a thing about skyfairy worshippers and God bothered all this clerical abuse will confirm it worse suspicion.
Are you a sad, not very bright or particularly successful, left-behind, Tommy Robison type with a Facebook profile a mass of poppies, Union Jacks, George Crosses and Britain First shares? It's them fecking Muslim innit taxi drivers that are doing it.
Don't like the establishment then it's the BBC (Jimmy Saville Gary Glitter etc).
Politicians? Of course.
Police? Yup.
Turns out all the charities have a proportion banging away at the kids all over the world they are supposed to be helping out.
The army are at it too. Cadets and junior soldiers are easy targets for those in authority who fancy a bit of abusing.
Teachers? At it.
Social workers? At it.
Prison officers in young offenders institutions? At it.
Have you a big extended family? Lot of divorce and step parents amongst your brothers, sisters and cousins? More likely you have it going on in your family than any of the other groups I've just mentioned.
Things are bad. That's as in 4% of us are abusing bad. They weren't any better and may well have been considerably worse in the old days.
Think of Victorian times or any other time and it'll have been going on.
Things are actually better now because we are aware and just starting to address it......
But to really address it we have to accept it is "us" that are the problem rather than "them" and deal with the situation accordingly.
What an excellent post, thanks for thisI heard an interesting interview on Radio 4 a while back. It was given by an expert used by the NSPCC.
What he said was by taking statistics such as surveys where a sample of the general population were aked if they suffered sex abuse it seems that around 4% of people said they had.
When they checked. It turned out 4% of priests and deacons from the Catholic Church have been accused of abusing children between the 1950s and 2002.
To see if this was statistically high further investigations were undertaken which revealed there is a constant level of offence that occurs throughout society.
Thus if you look at other Christian religious clergy, non Christian religious clergy, organisations such as The Scouts, Boys Brigade, Bernardos Care Homes, The Army, The Police, Muslim taxi drivers etc etc you will find a similar rate of abuse levels.
This sets a trap in society and sadly no--one is examining or challenging child abuse close to home.
It's always others. It's easy for us, a to kick off and feel good about ourselves as we are able to lable any group we don't like as a crowd of child raping scumbags.
Are u a mad Catholic hating Scottish or Northern Irish Orange bigot? Then it's Catholic Priest, Celtic fans that are the abusers.
If u wanted to argue the other way Protestant Anglican, Presbyterian and Evalgilical members are also abusing at about 4% of membership.
If you have a thing about skyfairy worshippers and God bothered all this clerical abuse will confirm it worse suspicion.
Are you a sad, not very bright or particularly successful, left-behind, Tommy Robison type with a Facebook profile a mass of poppies, Union Jacks, George Crosses and Britain First shares? It's them fecking Muslim innit taxi drivers that are doing it.
Don't like the establishment then it's the BBC (Jimmy Saville Gary Glitter etc).
Politicians? Of course.
Police? Yup.
Turns out all the charities have a proportion banging away at the kids all over the world they are supposed to be helping out.
The army are at it too. Cadets and junior soldiers are easy targets for those in authority who fancy a bit of abusing.
Teachers? At it.
Social workers? At it.
Prison officers in young offenders institutions? At it.
Have you a big extended family? Lot of divorce and step parents amongst your brothers, sisters and cousins? More likely you have it going on in your family than any of the other groups I've just mentioned.
Things are bad. That's as in 4% of us are abusing bad. They weren't any better and may well have been considerably worse in the old days.
Think of Victorian times or any other time and it'll have been going on.
Things are actually better now because we are aware and just starting to address it......
But to really address it we have to accept it is "us" that are the problem rather than "them" and deal with the situation accordingly.
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