Mt Snowdon Needs a McDonald's, Apparently.....
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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/touri...
Made me laugh. Reminded me of a trip to the New Forest, courtesy of a binoculars manufacturer, to see Honey Buzzards. Part way through the guided tour, which involved quite a long trek through open countryside, one of the attendees, a large American woman, demanded to know where the bathroom was........
Made me laugh. Reminded me of a trip to the New Forest, courtesy of a binoculars manufacturer, to see Honey Buzzards. Part way through the guided tour, which involved quite a long trek through open countryside, one of the attendees, a large American woman, demanded to know where the bathroom was........
Nothing in that article surprises me.
Last time I went up Snowdon we actually got a few laughs from strangers for being "all kitted out".
Near the top we passed people sheltering behind rocks from the (forecasted) 70mph wind and rain. Typically they were wearing jeans with a hooded sweatshirt. Mostly they just seemed bewildered by the conditions.
Last time I went up Snowdon we actually got a few laughs from strangers for being "all kitted out".
Near the top we passed people sheltering behind rocks from the (forecasted) 70mph wind and rain. Typically they were wearing jeans with a hooded sweatshirt. Mostly they just seemed bewildered by the conditions.
The Mcsnowden burger.
Anyone else laugh/suffer brain haemorrhage when researching places and reading reviews (I think it was Google not tripadvisor) at the amount of people who'll review a castle or suchlike tourist attractions and 9 tenths of the review is devoted to a thorough analysis of the f
king on site tea shop? And leave like 2 stars because the f
king carrot cake was dry or something. Ccnts.
Anyone else laugh/suffer brain haemorrhage when researching places and reading reviews (I think it was Google not tripadvisor) at the amount of people who'll review a castle or suchlike tourist attractions and 9 tenths of the review is devoted to a thorough analysis of the f
king on site tea shop? And leave like 2 stars because the f
king carrot cake was dry or something. Ccnts.I’m sure (hope) some of those reviews are wind-ups!
It’s not that steep but I guess the flip flop brigade in summer must think it’s a big hill then find it harder than they thought.
Did it myself in may - the weather was terrible and there was no view. Pretty much 50m vis all the way up. Even the train was cancelled that day.
Pyg track up, miners down.
Saw very few people but several of those I saw were out of their depth. It was mild with light rain at the bottom - snowing and -3 at the top.



It’s not that steep but I guess the flip flop brigade in summer must think it’s a big hill then find it harder than they thought.
Did it myself in may - the weather was terrible and there was no view. Pretty much 50m vis all the way up. Even the train was cancelled that day.
Pyg track up, miners down.
Saw very few people but several of those I saw were out of their depth. It was mild with light rain at the bottom - snowing and -3 at the top.
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Zoobeef said:
I went up via the top of crib goch in December of 2016, we had boots and about 70-80lbs of kit each. There were walkers in jeans, a coat and trainers. Madness.
SAS selection? 
WTF were you carrying?
anonymous said:
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Of course. But 80lbs of gear is over 30kg each. Which is what you might expect for an expedition pack, but is a significant impediment if you're doing something as technical and potentially serious as Crib Goch. I'm the last to advocate going up into the hills unprepared but you have to be going some to pack 80lbs of kit for a day trip anywhere in the UK.anonymous said:
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80lbs over Crib is likely more hazard than help. I'm ex mountain rescue so I fully endorse carrying the right kit, but I doubt I was humping 80lbs when wearing half a bell stretcher on my back + my personal kit.
That's an insane amount of weight even if your rocking crampons, axe, harness + climbing gear.
Zoobeef said:
I went up via the top of crib goch in December of 2016, we had boots and about 70-80lbs of kit each. There were walkers in jeans, a coat and trainers. Madness.
When we visited Snowdon a few summers back we encountered a few Essex lads and girls who were going up wearing jean shorts, vests, and flip flops. To their credit, they made it 
Went up twice last year, once with my 7 year old daughter and unfit partner! They made it up, but were under no illusions how hard it would be and were prepared to turn around if needed. The second time I was on my own and about a mile from the car park on the way back down the Ranger Path I met a guy who was struggling even then, asking me if it was much further to the top. I pointed out that he had just done the easy bit and that it got much, much harder and there was still approx 3 miles to go. At which point he just said, ah, the wife might not make it then (she was even further back than him and was practically dying when I passed her!) and said he had been told this was the easy path. The amount of people who read 'easy path' and think it is just that, easy, is staggering, it's a 3500 foot mountain ffs!
Snowdon has much more to offer than Skiddaw it would seem...
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186...
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186...
Tripadvisor Idiot said:
Compared to Snowdon summit this is a weak and poorly developed visitor attraction. Snowdon has a funicular railway to carry people to the summit. At Snowdon summit there is an excellent visitor centre with the full range of facilities - and the whole operation attracts hundreds of thousands of visitors per year.
Ascending to the summit of Skiddaw is an exhausting experience on the basis that the only means to get up there is to walk. It is just too high and too steep for most people. How can the Lake District National Park people expect people to go up there?. Be warned that ... THERE ARE NO FACILITIES AT THE SUMMIT. If you actually make it to the summit and then need the toilet then that is just too bad!.
I visited the summit this last weekend and was very disappointed with the experience. There was sod all to see and do there. If people had to pay to go there then nobody, and I mean nobody, would bother with it. The National Park people should charge visitors £5 to go the summit and use the proceeds to develop it. Essentials include a proper visitor centre. Long to medium term, consideration should be given to building a funicular railway to Skiddaw summit.
Ascending to the summit of Skiddaw is an exhausting experience on the basis that the only means to get up there is to walk. It is just too high and too steep for most people. How can the Lake District National Park people expect people to go up there?. Be warned that ... THERE ARE NO FACILITIES AT THE SUMMIT. If you actually make it to the summit and then need the toilet then that is just too bad!.
I visited the summit this last weekend and was very disappointed with the experience. There was sod all to see and do there. If people had to pay to go there then nobody, and I mean nobody, would bother with it. The National Park people should charge visitors £5 to go the summit and use the proceeds to develop it. Essentials include a proper visitor centre. Long to medium term, consideration should be given to building a funicular railway to Skiddaw summit.
gazza285 said:
Snowdon has much more to offer than Skiddaw it would seem...
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186...
they just don't read it back to themselves do they?https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186...
Tripadvisor Idiot said:
Compared to Snowdon summit this is a weak and poorly developed visitor attraction. Snowdon has a funicular railway to carry people to the summit. At Snowdon summit there is an excellent visitor centre with the full range of facilities - and the whole operation attracts hundreds of thousands of visitors per year.
Ascending to the summit of Skiddaw is an exhausting experience on the basis that the only means to get up there is to walk. It is just too high and too steep for most people. How can the Lake District National Park people expect people to go up there?. Be warned that ... THERE ARE NO FACILITIES AT THE SUMMIT. If you actually make it to the summit and then need the toilet then that is just too bad!.
I visited the summit this last weekend and was very disappointed with the experience. There was sod all to see and do there. If people had to pay to go there then nobody, and I mean nobody, would bother with it. The National Park people should charge visitors £5 to go the summit and use the proceeds to develop it. Essentials include a proper visitor centre. Long to medium term, consideration should be given to building a funicular railway to Skiddaw summit.
Ascending to the summit of Skiddaw is an exhausting experience on the basis that the only means to get up there is to walk. It is just too high and too steep for most people. How can the Lake District National Park people expect people to go up there?. Be warned that ... THERE ARE NO FACILITIES AT THE SUMMIT. If you actually make it to the summit and then need the toilet then that is just too bad!.
I visited the summit this last weekend and was very disappointed with the experience. There was sod all to see and do there. If people had to pay to go there then nobody, and I mean nobody, would bother with it. The National Park people should charge visitors £5 to go the summit and use the proceeds to develop it. Essentials include a proper visitor centre. Long to medium term, consideration should be given to building a funicular railway to Skiddaw summit.
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