Anglesey dead birds 'could have been fleeing bird of prey'
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Anglesey dead birds 'could have been fleeing bird of prey'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51134047
really?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51134047
really?
ks.Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Is it still the Welsh county with the highest number of windmills?
No, that would be Powys, with 4 times as many turbines as Anglesey!Your implication being that 200 or more small birds all flew into the blades of a windmill, all managed to fly the same distance away from the windmill and all died at the roughly the same spot.
Utter drivel!
Even the RSPB acknowledge that windmills/windfarms are not a significant factor in bird deaths in the UK, according to them more birds are killed by domestic cats than windmills/windfarms!
Seems highly probable to me, there were no dead birds in the fields either side of the road as they will have crashed on to soft sodden grass.
Having watched frequent murmurations they really do swoop very fast and close to the ground just under normal circumstances so when panicked by a bird of prey I imagine they could easily overcook it.
Having watched frequent murmurations they really do swoop very fast and close to the ground just under normal circumstances so when panicked by a bird of prey I imagine they could easily overcook it.
CypSIdders said:
Even the RSPB acknowledge that windmills/windfarms are not a significant factor in bird deaths in the UK, according to them more birds are killed by domestic cats than windmills/windfarms!
Well that's not exactly a reassuring comparison... are they saying that windmills 'only' kill millions of birds per year as opposed to the tens of millions killed by cats?mike74 said:
CypSIdders said:
Even the RSPB acknowledge that windmills/windfarms are not a significant factor in bird deaths in the UK, according to them more birds are killed by domestic cats than windmills/windfarms!
Well that's not exactly a reassuring comparison... are they saying that windmills 'only' kill millions of birds per year as opposed to the tens of millions killed by cats?CypSIdders said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Is it still the Welsh county with the highest number of windmills?
No, that would be Powys, with 4 times as many turbines as Anglesey!Your implication being that 200 or more small birds all flew into the blades of a windmill, all managed to fly the same distance away from the windmill and all died at the roughly the same spot.
Utter drivel!
Even the RSPB acknowledge that windmills/windfarms are not a significant factor in bird deaths in the UK, according to them more birds are killed by domestic cats than windmills/windfarms!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-78...
They seem concerned despite your claim
https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/wind-energy-t...
Only about 250 000 killed each year by the turbines in the USA alone, it’s nothing to be concerned about really
mike74 said:
CypSIdders said:
Even the RSPB acknowledge that windmills/windfarms are not a significant factor in bird deaths in the UK, according to them more birds are killed by domestic cats than windmills/windfarms!
Well that's not exactly a reassuring comparison... are they saying that windmills 'only' kill millions of birds per year as opposed to the tens of millions killed by cats?We issue them all with a cat-sized static bicycle generator, Black Mirror style, copious amounts of catnip-infused energy drinks, and strict instructions to spend at least 8 hours a day pedaling on them, generating....oooh....about 21 Megawatts...or if you will Mogawatts...of power, thus both removing the need for windmills and leaving the felines too shagged out and knackered to go killing birds.
Result.
eharding said:
I can see a solutiuon - there are roughly 11 million domestic cats in the UK.
We issue them all with a cat-sized static bicycle generator, Black Mirror style, copious amounts of catnip-infused energy drinks, and strict instructions to spend at least 8 hours a day pedaling on them, generating....oooh....about 21 Megawatts...or if you will Mogawatts...of power, thus both removing the need for windmills and leaving the felines too shagged out and knackered to go killing birds.
Result.
Good idea.We issue them all with a cat-sized static bicycle generator, Black Mirror style, copious amounts of catnip-infused energy drinks, and strict instructions to spend at least 8 hours a day pedaling on them, generating....oooh....about 21 Megawatts...or if you will Mogawatts...of power, thus both removing the need for windmills and leaving the felines too shagged out and knackered to go killing birds.
Result.
I think bells are also needed...both on the cycling cats and the windmills. Birds won't go near them then.
And maybe a plastic owl on the top.
OR.....can we put multi-coloured LEDs on (the blades, not the cats)? We could use those that spell things when the thing's working "Told Ya!" or "I'm saving the planet"??
Nickgnome said:
2,000 odd species and 15bn or so birds in the USA.
Concern yes, panic no.
Indeed.Concern yes, panic no.
Buildings, however, is another matter. They should all be demolished and built underground.
https://abcbirds.org/blog/truth-about-birds-and-gl...
I disagree quite strongly with the RSPB's conclusions when it comes to bird mortality due to the domestic cat. I think the figure in the UK is estimated at 12 million birds are killed by domestic cats every year but the conclusion the came to in the same report was that the populations are still governed by availability of food and nesting sites therefore not a major problem.
My opinion is that these 12 million birds would probably go to better use feeding the natural predatory chain than domestic cats bolstering many higher up species...
The RSPB did however reject building a wind turbine at their HQ in Bedfordshire due to a local bat colony. It's well known that turbines kill bats, not due to being hit but the pressure drop around the blades. It wouldn't surprise me if small birds are killed in the same manner whereas large birds are killed by the blades themselves.
If I were king I'd ban the domestic cat from going outdoors unless it's wear socks and a muzzle.
I don't think people would tolerate dogs killing this amount of wild birds year on year...
My opinion is that these 12 million birds would probably go to better use feeding the natural predatory chain than domestic cats bolstering many higher up species...
The RSPB did however reject building a wind turbine at their HQ in Bedfordshire due to a local bat colony. It's well known that turbines kill bats, not due to being hit but the pressure drop around the blades. It wouldn't surprise me if small birds are killed in the same manner whereas large birds are killed by the blades themselves.
If I were king I'd ban the domestic cat from going outdoors unless it's wear socks and a muzzle.
I don't think people would tolerate dogs killing this amount of wild birds year on year...
CypSIdders said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Is it still the Welsh county with the highest number of windmills?
No, that would be Powys, with 4 times as many turbines as Anglesey!Your implication being that 200 or more small birds all flew into the blades of a windmill, all managed to fly the same distance away from the windmill and all died at the roughly the same spot.
Utter drivel!
Even the RSPB acknowledge that windmills/windfarms are not a significant factor in bird deaths in the UK, according to them more birds are killed by domestic cats than windmills/windfarms!
https://www.kcet.org/redefine/uk-ecologist-wind-fa...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/11/07/win...
As to the starlings, they reportedly follow the movements of nearby birds in murmurations, so not keeping an eye on the proximity of the road may well be the cause.
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