USA And The Environment.
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Tannedbaldhead

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3,135 posts

156 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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US legislators have just passed a law allowing the dumping of hazardous chemicals directly into rivers.

In the past few years they have rolled back legislation protecting endangered species and their National Parks. (One of the nastiest laws was legalizing digging hibernating mother bears and their cubs and shooting them.
Why would you do that?)

There are even calls from parties in America to review and legalise the use of CFCs and DDT based insecticide.

I'm far from an eco warrior and rarely if ever emotively or repeatedly post on environmental subjects. In this instance, however, my gast is absolutely flabbered in that a govt could do this and do so with the popular support of the people.

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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One word: MONEY

p4cks

7,376 posts

223 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Max_Torque said:
One word: MONEY
Yep. The Americans have a crass and unhealthy obsession with money.

frisbee

5,511 posts

134 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Good old Trump also wants to remove the law banning American companies from bribing foreign entities.

bloomen

9,590 posts

183 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Never will I understand why being right wing seems to align so closely with being happy to poo in one's back yard.

You can still wish to slaughter brown people AND think keeping one's environs pure is a good thing.

NNH

1,547 posts

156 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Trump is reflexively overturning anything the Obama administration did, whether it was good, bad or indifferent. Even businesses have asked if some of his anti-eco policies really make sense, such as rebooting coal mining or watering down fuel consumption requirements.

On the upside, over a third of the country lives in states which have followed California's lead on green energy and transportation, even signing up for the same emissions plans.

I think the current administration is just a blip, and over time USA will continue to get closer to the rest of the developed world's approach to climate change, pollution reduction, and environmental protection.

Tannedbaldhead

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3,135 posts

156 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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NNH said:
On the upside, over a third of the country lives in states which have followed California's lead on green energy and transportation, even signing up for the same emissions plans.
Am sure I read he was trying to put a stop to that.
California is such a large market that they were impacting on fuel emmisions of the entire US car market.

NNH

1,547 posts

156 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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Tannedbaldhead said:
NNH said:
On the upside, over a third of the country lives in states which have followed California's lead on green energy and transportation, even signing up for the same emissions plans.
Am sure I read he was trying to put a stop to that.
California is such a large market that they were impacting on fuel emmisions of the entire US car market.
He's trying, but we have better lawyers wink

Tannedbaldhead

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3,135 posts

156 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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NNH said:
He's trying, but we have better lawyers wink
Fair enough but he has the Supreme Court.

AER

1,145 posts

294 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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The assumption in this thread seems to be that every law is a good law and unintended consequences don't exist. That seems a bit dumb to me.

Tannedbaldhead

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3,135 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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AER said:
The assumption in this thread seems to be that every law is a good law and unintended consequences don't exist. That seems a bit dumb to me.
The consequence of not allowing a contractor to dump toxic waste into a river is it will cost them a lot more money to dispose of it elsewhere.
Curbing profits isn't the end of the world. Absolute deregulation of environmental protection may well bring it about.

biggbn

30,665 posts

244 months

Saturday 25th January 2020
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Cree Indian proverb.

Only when they have cut down the last tree, caught the last fish and poisoned the last river, only then will they realise they can't eat money.