THWAITES GLACIER have i become a flake.
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All this global warming stuff has never really bothered me, I have done my bit (I think) recycling, solar and trying to purchase stuff not wrapped in a ton of plastic ect.
However as I live on the seafront in a small Somerset town I have been recently thinking about the rise in sea level and should we sell up and move before the 5hit hits the fan and the house becomes worthless and more importantly my old car get ruined.
This Thwaites glacier thing has been on the news today making me a little more flaky. I can see me having a discussion with the memsaab about moving, but she will see this as another one of my ploys to move to Cornwall.
https://interactive.pri.org/2019/05/antarctica/doo...
However as I live on the seafront in a small Somerset town I have been recently thinking about the rise in sea level and should we sell up and move before the 5hit hits the fan and the house becomes worthless and more importantly my old car get ruined.
This Thwaites glacier thing has been on the news today making me a little more flaky. I can see me having a discussion with the memsaab about moving, but she will see this as another one of my ploys to move to Cornwall.
https://interactive.pri.org/2019/05/antarctica/doo...
A town on the Welsh coast we lived in until 10 years ago is effectively being sacrificed to the sea, albeit not for quite a while yet, but even so it not going to be easy for people who have invested locally and those who have lived there for generations seeing.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wels...
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wels...
kdri155 said:
A town on the Welsh coast we lived in until 10 years ago is effectively being sacrificed to the sea, albeit not for quite a while yet, but even so it not going to be easy for people who have invested locally and those who have lived there for generations seeing.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wels...
FFS Fairbourne was a salt marsh before someone came along and built sea defences to keep the sea out and then built houses behind the wall.https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wels...
garagewidow said:
The English Channel wasn't a thing millions of years ago.....
The sea won't rise due to all the mining of precious metals for iphones and evs.
It wasn't a thing 6000 years ago!The sea won't rise due to all the mining of precious metals for iphones and evs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12244964
Thesprucegoose said:
Man made climate change is happening all around us, so maybe living by the sea might not be the best idea. It crazy the stuff happening today how much it effect the future.
Ref coastal areas, forget climate change, we've been doing crazy stuff for years.Building on flood plains, coastal defences that move the problems elsewhere etc. In all the climate change hullabaloo we seem to be forgetting how to manage the land we occupy which allows sensible mitigation/adaptation.
Hey ho.
Murph7355 said:
forgetting how to manage the land we occupy which allows sensible mitigation/adaptation.
If the icecaps melt there ain't going to be much land we occupy to manage. When we see stuff that usually takes millenia happening in decades we should all be worried not even those at the seaside. In my lifetime the weather seems to be more extreme, but in reality the damage is done, we just sit back and watch it all unfold now.
Thesprucegoose said:
If the icecaps melt there ain't going to be much land we occupy to manage.
When we see stuff that usually takes millenia happening in decades we should all be worried not even those at the seaside. In my lifetime the weather seems to be more extreme, but in reality the damage is done, we just sit back and watch it all unfold now.
which ice caps are going to melt out and cause flooding in the immediate future ? When we see stuff that usually takes millenia happening in decades we should all be worried not even those at the seaside. In my lifetime the weather seems to be more extreme, but in reality the damage is done, we just sit back and watch it all unfold now.
which planet do you live on where the weather has become more extreme as it certainly hasn't on planet earth.
here in the uk it has become utterly benign due to being in the warm phase of the amo,no huge snowfalls , deep freeze or summer droughts worth talking about ,despite the large increase in population the last 30 years and the extra water use as a result.
wc98 said:
where the weather has become more extreme as it certainly hasn't on planet earth.
There are hundreds of scientific evidence out there, I'm not going to repost it up and turn it into another CC thread. It's happening, but we will be all dead before we ever see the true impact of the last 50 years.Two things here:
1. Even in the article it states "...may be linked to climate change, but a lack of long-term data in the region and a poor understanding of the processes at work means scientists are hesitant to draw a direct connection..."
2. I'm surprised the article doesn't refer to any of the scientific studies that show volcanic activity directly beneath the Thwaites glacier.
Example:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/1406...
A healthy dose of scepticism and broader research is always useful, rather than simply accepting the fear of a clickbait headline.
1. Even in the article it states "...may be linked to climate change, but a lack of long-term data in the region and a poor understanding of the processes at work means scientists are hesitant to draw a direct connection..."
2. I'm surprised the article doesn't refer to any of the scientific studies that show volcanic activity directly beneath the Thwaites glacier.
Example:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/1406...
A healthy dose of scepticism and broader research is always useful, rather than simply accepting the fear of a clickbait headline.
Jacobyte said:
Two things here:
1. Even in the article it states "...may be linked to climate change, but a lack of long-term data in the region and a poor understanding of the processes at work means scientists are hesitant to draw a direct connection..."
2. I'm surprised the article doesn't refer to any of the scientific studies that show volcanic activity directly beneath the Thwaites glacier.
Example:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/1406...
A healthy dose of scepticism and broader research is always useful, rather than simply accepting the fear of a clickbait headline.
Also the fact that it appears to be the only part of the Antarctic ice sheet that is actually showing any significant thinning - going by the map in the article.1. Even in the article it states "...may be linked to climate change, but a lack of long-term data in the region and a poor understanding of the processes at work means scientists are hesitant to draw a direct connection..."
2. I'm surprised the article doesn't refer to any of the scientific studies that show volcanic activity directly beneath the Thwaites glacier.
Example:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/1406...
A healthy dose of scepticism and broader research is always useful, rather than simply accepting the fear of a clickbait headline.
Jacobyte said:
Two things here:
1. Even in the article it states "...may be linked to climate change, but a lack of long-term data in the region and a poor understanding of the processes at work means scientists are hesitant to draw a direct connection..."
2. I'm surprised the article doesn't refer to any of the scientific studies that show volcanic activity directly beneath the Thwaites glacier.
Example:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/1406...
A healthy dose of scepticism and broader research is always useful, rather than simply accepting the fear of a clickbait headline.
Whats changed in the last few decades that has accelerated the process then? Considering these geotherms have been there for thousands of years?1. Even in the article it states "...may be linked to climate change, but a lack of long-term data in the region and a poor understanding of the processes at work means scientists are hesitant to draw a direct connection..."
2. I'm surprised the article doesn't refer to any of the scientific studies that show volcanic activity directly beneath the Thwaites glacier.
Example:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/1406...
A healthy dose of scepticism and broader research is always useful, rather than simply accepting the fear of a clickbait headline.
this was from a later paper,2018, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC60149...
''Simulations of the adjacent Thwaites Glacier may suggest that such a heat source will not significantly alter the subglacial melt rate in comparison with the high rate of friction''
Edited by Thesprucegoose on Tuesday 28th January 12:46
I did just finish reading the BBC summary, sure it is all postulation but then all of science is, there are no facts. That shouldn't be a reason to dismiss them though - nobody has proven gravity other than those observing it and theorising why, but we all accept it for what it is until told otherwise (well most, if you are a flat earther its a whole different ball game!).
For me its the scale, the sheer size of something that could in fact disappear and how much it displaces is astonishing and fair play to the scientists trying to understand it - the conditions out there are horrendous and to try and run experiments in it, well it takes some effort. I would rather they be out there trying their best to understand it than waving hands and just saying its neither this nor that.
For me its the scale, the sheer size of something that could in fact disappear and how much it displaces is astonishing and fair play to the scientists trying to understand it - the conditions out there are horrendous and to try and run experiments in it, well it takes some effort. I would rather they be out there trying their best to understand it than waving hands and just saying its neither this nor that.
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